From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8050: Gnus does not connect to my IMAP server any more Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:29:36 -0800 Message-ID: <87wrkobutr.fsf__12193.8892560594$1298610422$gmane$org@gnus.org> References: <87y655bnr4.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1298610423 30638 80.91.229.12 (25 Feb 2011 05:07:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 05:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ding Mailing List To: 8050@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 25 06:06:58 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsptH-0000gT-OH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 06:06:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36895 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PsptG-00047q-W8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 00:06:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=38703 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PsptB-00045Q-8E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 00:06:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pspt7-0001BJ-MV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 00:06:49 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36012) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pspt7-0001BF-Jm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 00:06:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pspgn-0006M7-Q1; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:54:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 04:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8050 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8050-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8050.129860962624409 (code B ref 8050); Fri, 25 Feb 2011 04:54:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8050) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Feb 2011 04:53:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PspgX-0006Le-91 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:53:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [109.144.247.156] (helo=vaio) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PspgV-0006LT-SU for 8050@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:53:44 -0500 Original-Received: from larsi by vaio with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PspgN-0005g2-W3; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:53:36 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87y655bnr4.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:50:07 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110014 (No Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:54:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:44353 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > You may want to edit the line in case you want to change it before it's > written. Lars also thought this was not good but I feel strongly this > is useful functionality and it's not too intrusive. I think it's definitely too intrusive. The question that's relevant is "do you want to save the password?" That's the only thing a normal user could possibly be interested in, and it's a yes or no question. Asking the user to "e"-dit the netrc line would be for Gnus to prompt the user on `C-c C-c' "do you want to (s)end the message or (e)dit the MIME representation of the message before sending?" The latter is only interesting for people who are implementing the MIME encoding, and not any user. The same goes for the .netrc stuff. If you want to add a debugging mode to auth-source that allows you to edit the .netrc lines, that's fine, but it's not fine to confuse users on something as basic as password management. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen