From: XeCycle <xecycle@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: middle mouse paste into isearch minibuffer
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:33:58 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wrbtl5rd.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 888C0416-F844-40E5-AC4D-CE9E15E81278@mac.com
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Perry Wagle <wagle@mac.com> writes:
> I have a number of tools (like proof general) that I need to use, so I
> really need to switch from years of xemacs to emacs.
>
> But.
>
> Using isearch on highlighted regions of text is way too clumsy in
> emacs.
>
>
> In xemacs, if I double-mouse-1 over some words with my right hand on
> the mouse, and press control s with my left hand, then I can press
> middle mouse with my right hand, which is still on the mouse, to paste
> into the minibuffer.
>
> In emacs, if I do the same, the isearch in the minibuffer IS ABORTED
> and the highlighted region is pasted wherever the mouse happens to be
> now.
So you want to search the word at point, right? Try C-s C-w. If you
need more, just press C-w more.
> In emacs, ESC y is wrong because it takes too long, requires both
> hands for me to do accurately, and requires I take my right hand off
> the mouse, and return it.
>
> In emacs, moving the mouse cursor into the minibuffer and then
> mouse-2'ing is wrong because it takes too long and is too hard to do
> rapidly.
>
> In this situation, all keyboard events are already going to the
> minibuffer. Having an option for people like me to have it also trap
> mouse buttons seems like a good thing, especially with gesture mice
> making the one-button mouse metaphor even more completely obsolete.
> It IS aborting the isearch, so purity arguments don't hold here. This
> is a human factors issue, and emacs is losing.
>
> I've tried a couple times to have this conversation, and most people
> say "don't use the mouse". Well, if the mouse is treated by emacs
> (and not xemacs, for example), its no wonder that emacs people don't
> use the mouse. Its been rendered useless.
>
> I want to make my mouse useful. I use it a lot. And I use the above
> idiom a lot.
I suggest throwing away your mouse.
Some hints: Use isearch extensively. Jump to somewhere with C-s (or
C-r), and after you finished your edits there, jump back with C-u C-SPC
--- you may press it more if it failed.
>
> Apparently, I'm going to have to do this myself, unless someone else
> sees my light this time. What's the best way to do it? I have the
> feeling I'm fighting the foundations of emacs to try to funnel mouse
> button events into the minibuffer.
>
> Thanks for whatever help, hints, and guidance you can give me!
>
> -- Perry
>
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-10-25 10:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-10-25 5:38 middle mouse paste into isearch minibuffer Perry Wagle
2011-10-25 10:33 ` XeCycle [this message]
2011-10-26 4:36 ` Perry Wagle
2011-10-26 5:23 ` XeCycle
2011-10-26 5:34 ` Perry Wagle
2011-11-10 4:09 ` Perry Wagle
2011-11-10 20:53 ` Drew Adams
2011-11-10 21:21 ` Perry Wagle
2011-11-11 14:12 ` Harry Putnam
2011-11-11 14:40 ` Drew Adams
2011-11-11 15:28 ` Harry Putnam
2011-11-11 15:36 ` Harry Putnam
2011-11-11 15:34 ` Harry Putnam
2011-11-11 15:48 ` Drew Adams
2011-11-12 1:22 ` Drew Adams
[not found] <mailman.1010.1319521101.15868.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-10-25 13:52 ` Stefan Monnier
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