From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ralf Angeli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: RefTeX Merge Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 23:02:17 +0200 Message-ID: <87wqzjgmna.fsf@caeruleus.net> References: <877grkehl2.fsf@caeruleus.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1348520555 16410 80.91.229.3 (24 Sep 2012 21:02:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 21:02:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 24 23:02:38 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TGFnS-0002eW-8d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 23:02:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40110 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TGFnN-00013c-5m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:02:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46985) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TGFnK-00013E-O6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:02:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TGFnJ-00022L-PY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:02:22 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]:49400) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TGFnH-000223-MU; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:02:19 -0400 Original-Received: from photon (p54A503F3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.165.3.243]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MWzzA-1SvLGY0XC8-00WUG2; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 23:02:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Sun, 23 Sep 2012 14:48:25 -0400") X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:Wsp6vjCN3ROqDmUACd4rb8r/WjnSqa/1RrhczJCSrH8 YR3qmWqrS7bGQhFcJxG9oVJ1moL+8tXAAZqAeW2yf638T7UXnL qVXYTrVuatyVrvPZBixM3gRtrYwTFw73qoiLADmabdKBMcv+jk nnCtOUaTmidiphDSqWUzgvBvMasQUNrKgwkJXX7Rrm+PcpOBNp MrY8gWyPig17CGcpnNzEF7JU54MVqmR93Rtayzwd+cHfGXM9K+ Vq6YzE/jizfl/N1Y5JRicXi+nXQQ/szf82IaegCThWYLzq25/k UexptFZNIUoIYkmwp4HqnnWPZOCAEieBKqUuJTwvKzFmsS0mg= = X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 212.227.126.187 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:153520 Archived-At: * Glenn Morris (2012-09-23) writes: > Ralf Angeli wrote: > >> * Version info in Lisp and Texinfo files > > This is not really an option for Emacs, because the info and elc files > are pre-built in release tarfiles. So people don't even need to have > makeinfo installed to build Emacs. So you cannot generate parts of the > *.texi files at build time. This is why eg doc/emacs/emacsver.texi is > not generated by configure. Ah, okay. But emacsver.texi is sort of what I was looking for. Even though it is not automatically generated, the version information in there could be used in reftex.texi. (As long as people are content with RefTeX using the same version as Emacs.) emacsver.texi lacks information about the date which can be used to distinguish different builds during the development phase. And I found it nice to see how old a (released) version is. But I guess it's not too much of a loss if that bit of information is removed from the manual. >> * Macros in Texinfo files > > It depends which version of makeinfo they first appeared in. @TeX and > @LaTeX are used already elsewhere in Emacs, so are OK. I've never heard > of @BibTeX, and it is not in the texinfo 4.13 manual on my current > machine. Configure currently tests for makeinfo >= 4.7. As you suspected in another mail I was talking about user-defined macros where I was not sure if they can be used. Since they don't seem to be problematic I'll leave them in reftex.texi. In the standalone version there is a macro.texi file which is included in reftex.texi but for the Emacs version I've put everything in reftex.texi. The same is true for install.texi with installation instructions (which should be removed at some point in time) and changes.texi with news related to releases. -- Ralf