From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aidan Gauland Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Eshell and Sudo Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:08:44 +1300 Message-ID: <87wqu7xq77.fsf@dimension8.tehua.net> References: <87ehgg451n.fsf@gnu.org> <87txpc3wnn.fsf@gmx.de> <87r4kgcacu.fsf@dimension8.tehua.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1361092145 18157 80.91.229.3 (17 Feb 2013 09:09:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 09:09:05 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 17 10:09:28 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U70FT-0004FK-HY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 10:09:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56486 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U70F8-0004uP-Mz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 04:09:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59029) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U70F5-0004uH-Hr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 04:09:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U70F4-0004ki-Cr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 04:09:03 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:36806) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U70F4-0004ka-6K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 04:09:02 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U70FK-0004CO-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 10:09:18 +0100 Original-Received: from 114-134-6-163.rurallink.co.nz ([114.134.6.163]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 10:09:17 +0100 Original-Received: from aidalgol by 114-134-6-163.rurallink.co.nz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 10:09:17 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 11 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 114-134-6-163.rurallink.co.nz User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ARcKuASahfqNnXdr9McU3rPemvE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157093 Archived-At: "John Wiegley" writes: > As a note, I do not think tramp should be involved by default in eshell/sudo. > This should be an optional module, em-tramp, which one can enable to bring in > such behavior. It makes using sudo on localhost many, many times slower, with > no functional benefit. I fully agree; it's confusing just about every new user. On this note, may I please have commit access now? Thanks, Aidan Gauland