From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Using punctuation in abbrev Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:10:42 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87wqqcm4u5.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> References: <87vc5x3x5b.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87d2s4b8f0.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1370221439 1087 80.91.229.3 (3 Jun 2013 01:03:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 01:03:59 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 03 03:04:00 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UjJBo-00088H-Bz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 03:04:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36960 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UjJBn-0003Hi-QY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 21:03:59 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 29 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: SWN/nubmpQxYKwY7hPy4YA.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:i4g49vMHbsrTsU3qfuvCFU9aUZY= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:198977 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 02 Jun 2013 21:03:49 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:91245 Archived-At: Aurélien Aptel writes: > Scientific or programming related stuff yes. And about the > programming language, it has already been done 60 years ago with > APL [1] which is actually scary and impressive :) Stefan Monnier writes: > If you're into that kind of thing, you might like Agda (note > that it's a proof assistant, so not useful if you want to do > Octave/Mathematica kind of things). Thanks for cool facts, but no, I'm not into that at all. I have a degree in CS so I'm done with math and formal stuff (with the exception of teaching it to school kids to get food money) - I want to do Lisp and C, steady, everyday stuff. (And I don't consider Lisp "functional" but rather "do whatever you want".) But I can se some perks with such a "Unicode language" - for example, how many ways have you seen "not equal" been syntaxed in PLs? !=, <>, ne, =/= (Erlang), ... - what a mess, and one of the most annoying things to have to stop and look up. Unicode notation would help in such cases, for sure. And, the code would be more pleasant to read (and more readable to non-programmers with a background in math and/or natural sciences). -- Emanuel Berg - programmer (hire me! CV below) computer projects: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 internet activity: http://home.student.uu.se/embe8573