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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Daniel Hackney <dan@haxney.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Emacs development discussions <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: Lexical byte-compilation warnings cleanup
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:53:34 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wqnfg675.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6daf4da3-1d3a-4f4c-9db8-7174fb6da584@default>

Drew Adams writes:
 > Stefan wrote:
 >> Drew wrote:
 >>> Stefan wrote:

 >>>> Indeed, it does not refer to the dynamically bound variable.
 >>> Why is that?  Will this be fixed, or is this the intended design?
 >   ^^^^^^^^^^^^

 >> Intended design.

 > And the intention is?  The design is?  The reason is?

Give it up, Drew.  RMS has never been one to prefer "a foolish
consistency" (ie, adherence to abstract principles) where consistency
collides with his intuition or hacking convenience, and that same
reliance on intuition appeals to current maintainers as well:

 > > As language designers, we just take idea from here and there.

I think that is the last word on Elisp design principles.  Abstractly
I don't like it, myself, but surely you don't deny that it has proven
to be a workable strategy.

Nevertheless there is hope for those who prefer care-full design:
Guilemacs!

Steve



  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-21  1:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-19 23:33 Lexical byte-compilation warnings cleanup Daniel Hackney
2013-08-20  0:01 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-08-20  0:11 ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-20  5:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-20 15:25   ` Drew Adams
2013-08-20 20:41     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-20 21:31       ` Drew Adams
2013-08-20 23:21         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-21  0:10           ` Drew Adams
2013-08-21  1:53             ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2013-08-21  2:57               ` Drew Adams
2013-08-21  4:49                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-04 20:50                   ` Daniel Hackney
2013-09-15 19:33                   ` Daniel Colascione
2013-08-21  5:19       ` Dmitri Paduchikh
2013-08-21 20:12         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-05  3:30 ` Stefan Monnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-08-21 23:12 Barry OReilly
2013-08-22  5:05 ` Dmitri Paduchikh
2013-08-22 20:41   ` Stefan Monnier

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