inconsistent file ordering for remote vs local dired

inconsistent file ordering for remote vs local dired

[gottlieb]

My systems run gnu-linux (gentoo) and emacs 24.3.

Consider a directory DIR with just two files: lower and Upper.
  /bin/ls DIR the files in the order "lower upper".
  emacs -Q dired DIR also lists them in the order "lower Upper".

But emacs -Q dired /localhost:DIR lists them in the order
"Upper lower".

How can I make them use the same ordering?

(Naturally, the interesting case is when using two systems and not
localhost).

thanks,
allan

Re: inconsistent file ordering for remote vs local dired

[Michael Albinus]

gottlieb@nyu.edu writes:

Hi Allen,

> My systems run gnu-linux (gentoo) and emacs 24.3.
>
> Consider a directory DIR with just two files: lower and Upper.
>   /bin/ls DIR the files in the order "lower upper".
>   emacs -Q dired DIR also lists them in the order "lower Upper".
>
> But emacs -Q dired /localhost:DIR lists them in the order
> "Upper lower".
>
> How can I make them use the same ordering?

This is solved in the recent Emacs trunk. You could upgrade to that
developer version Emacs 24.3.50, or use the latest Tramp release 2.2.8.

I've tried to find the change which made it happen, but there is no
obvious one. So I cannot offer you a patch for the builtin Tramp version
of Emacs 24.3.

> thanks,
> allan

Best regards, Michael.

Re: inconsistent file ordering for remote vs local dired

[gottlieb]

On Fri, Nov 01 2013, Michael Albinus wrote:

> gottlieb@nyu.edu writes:
>
> Hi Allen,
>
>> My systems run gnu-linux (gentoo) and emacs 24.3.
>>
>> Consider a directory DIR with just two files: lower and Upper.
>>   /bin/ls DIR the files in the order "lower upper".
>>   emacs -Q dired DIR also lists them in the order "lower Upper".
>>
>> But emacs -Q dired /localhost:DIR lists them in the order
>> "Upper lower".
>>
>> How can I make them use the same ordering?
>
> This is solved in the recent Emacs trunk. You could upgrade to that
> developer version Emacs 24.3.50, or use the latest Tramp release 2.2.8.
>
> I've tried to find the change which made it happen, but there is no
> obvious one. So I cannot offer you a patch for the builtin Tramp version
> of Emacs 24.3.
>
>> thanks,
>> allan
>
> Best regards, Michael.

Thank you.  Presumably 24.4 will have the fix and that is good enough
for me.  Thanks again,
allan