From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15917: 24.3.50; manual: mention keys reserved for users Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 04:36:13 +0100 Message-ID: <87wqk6e5zm.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384745833 14696 80.91.229.3 (18 Nov 2013 03:37:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 03:37:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Paul Smith To: 15917@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 18 04:37:18 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ViFeI-0007fu-EF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 04:37:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41104 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViFeH-0006as-JE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:37:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41008) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViFe8-0006aS-JK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:37:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViFe2-0007nP-SP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:37:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:45266) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViFe2-0007nF-P7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:37:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ViFe2-0000TV-JI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:37:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 03:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 15917 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13847458081776 (code B ref -1); Mon, 18 Nov 2013 03:37:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2013 03:36:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59285 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ViFdo-0000Sa-A1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:36:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39208) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ViFdl-0000SN-Jr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:36:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViFda-0007Zk-Gx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:36:40 -0500 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:33446) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViFda-0007Zg-E9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:36:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40920) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViFdU-0006Zz-Tu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:36:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViFdP-0007Ws-KZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:36:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.4]:55270) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViFdP-0007Vm-Bb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:36:23 -0500 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([90.186.252.235]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb101) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0LtWo4-1VaWRT1Wh2-010qNs for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 04:36:21 +0100 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:wJm8+rSRJnOymz5mcVY6+YMAS9tkvn+UU5aNcE36solgLsL8yAh kJTSfDYhDt8RH7oNDvZLFTgCUpw9iWp0BvQ+wE9ZOMdwjiWGlvzoLOyRajjelvb5qSvg5HK 8yWKW9UxJ4m4npT30zDRL8jOe/IjSa63oRMd8IsBSRLyXPwLjQvkVymfaXnZ7aSNkB8wrFe I8mx0B9LiBE/pmy4iv28A== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:80708 Archived-At: Hello, (info "(emacs) Keymaps") doesn't tell anything about keys reserved for users (C-c LETTER). BTW, this was the case some time ago, see ftp://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/Manuals/emacs/html_node/emacs_492.html Users reading the users manual should have a chance to find this essential information, because getting used to bindings you cannot keep because of collisions you find later is very annoying. I propose to add a sentence describing that C-c LETTER key sequences are reserved for users. It would also be suitable for "(emacs) Init Rebinding", but somewhere it should be said. Thanks, Michael. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.8.4) of 2013-11-13 on drachen Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11403000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux testing (jessie)