From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16007: admin/charsets/mule-charsets.el requires old Emacs version Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 23:50:22 +0900 Message-ID: <87wqjm0z0x.fsf@gnu.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386082268 23802 80.91.229.3 (3 Dec 2013 14:51:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 14:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16007@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 03 15:51:12 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VnrJe-0002sR-DZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 15:51:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42784 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VnrJe-0000SR-49 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:51:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46311) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VnrJZ-0000SG-Uz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:51:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VnrJW-0000Xh-C5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:51:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41690) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VnrJW-0000Xd-8Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:51:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VnrJV-0007Ge-Ns for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:51:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 14:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16007 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16007-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16007.138608223127900 (code B ref 16007); Tue, 03 Dec 2013 14:51:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16007) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Dec 2013 14:50:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55709 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VnrJ1-0007Fv-3r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:50:31 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:56272 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VnrIy-0007Fm-0s for 16007@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:50:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fl1-110-233-32-186.iba.mesh.ad.jp ([110.233.32.186]:39463 helo=shatin) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VnrIw-0001e4-P0; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:50:27 -0500 Original-Received: from handa by shatin with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1VnrIs-0002wg-Jq; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 23:50:22 +0900 In-Reply-To: <837gbn5hwz.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 02 Dec 2013 18:36:28 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:81313 Archived-At: In article <837gbn5hwz.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii writes: > > Emacs 23/24 is built with those maps. Thus generating those > > maps by Emacs 23/24 is nonsense. > But we are just one step away of having mule-charsets.el DTRT in Emacs > 24 as well. The source of those maps is Emacs 22; more precisely mule-conf.el and ucs-tables.el of Emacs 22. I used Emacs 22 itself rather than writing a converter of those files just because the former was far easier. Anyway, if Emacs 24 has a bug, for instance, in map-charset-chars, we may generate wrong maps with that buggy Emacs. > Is the effort of making it work with MULE-is13194.map is > so significant? ??? I'm saying that such an effort is useless. If someone want to generate those maps, he/she should use Emacs 22. > Can you tell me what needs to be done to support that > charset? Nothing other than fixing the current Emacs so that list-charset-chars works correctly with indian-is13194. > I'll then code that myself. Who knows, we might need this > some day, even if that day is far away. Emacs 22 will not run on any avairable machine in the future, then we loose the original source of MULE-* maps. That's the same as an internet site from which we copied the other maps will be closed in the future. But what is the problem? We already have the necessary correct maps. The reason of having mule-charsets.el is to tell how those maps are generated, not to re-generate those maps. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org