Set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file under linux with Word ?

Set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file under linux with Word ?

[AW]

Hi!

I'm using orgmode as a replacement for folders, you know, real folders, lots 
of paper inside. 

In my orgfiles I link to many other files, mostly *.tex and *.pdf, links look 
like

[[./foo.pdf][About foo]]

Sometimes I can't avoid to link to doc  or docx files. So I need my linux pc to 
start word and load a certain file. 

I'd like to link to *.doc files in the same way:

[[./bar.doc][About that draft]]

But how can I set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file with MS Word under Linux?  
Word works, more or less. 

To start word the command is:

env WINEPREFIX="/home/AW/.wine-office" wine "C:\windows\command\start.exe" /Unix 
"/home/AW/.wine-office/dosdevices/c:/users/AW/Start Menu/Programs/Microsoft 
Office/Microsoft Word 2010.lnk"

But how in the world can I put in my .emacs file? I tried:

 (add-to-list 'org-file-apps 
   '("\\.doc" . "\"env WINEPREFIX="/home/AW/.wine-office" wine 
"C:/windows/command/start.exe" 
 /Unix "/home/AW/.wine-office/dosdevices/c:/users/AW/Start 
Menu/Programs/Microsoft Office/Microsoft Word 2010.lnk"\" %s"))

But I get:

Invalid read syntax: ". in wrong context"

Any suggestions would be welcome!

Regards,

Alexander

Re: Set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file under linux with Word ?

[AW]

Wrong list! Sorry for the noise!


Am Mittwoch, 4. Dezember 2013, 22:37:59 schrieb AW:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm using orgmode as a replacement for folders, you know, real folders, lots
> of paper inside.
> 
> In my orgfiles I link to many other files, mostly *.tex and *.pdf, links
> look like
> 
> [[./foo.pdf][About foo]]
> 
> Sometimes I can't avoid to link to doc  or docx files. So I need my linux pc
> to start word and load a certain file.
> 
> I'd like to link to *.doc files in the same way:
> 
> [[./bar.doc][About that draft]]
> 
> But how can I set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file with MS Word under
> Linux? Word works, more or less.
> 
> To start word the command is:
> 
> env WINEPREFIX="/home/AW/.wine-office" wine "C:\windows\command\start.exe"
> /Unix "/home/AW/.wine-office/dosdevices/c:/users/AW/Start
> Menu/Programs/Microsoft Office/Microsoft Word 2010.lnk"
> 
> But how in the world can I put in my .emacs file? I tried:
> 
>  (add-to-list 'org-file-apps
>    '("\\.doc" . "\"env WINEPREFIX="/home/AW/.wine-office" wine
> "C:/windows/command/start.exe"
>  /Unix "/home/AW/.wine-office/dosdevices/c:/users/AW/Start
> Menu/Programs/Microsoft Office/Microsoft Word 2010.lnk"\" %s"))
> 
> But I get:
> 
> Invalid read syntax: ". in wrong context"
> 
> Any suggestions would be welcome!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alexander

Set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file under linux with Word ?

[AW]

Hi!

I'm using orgmode as a replacement for folders, you know, real folders, lots 
of paper inside. 

In my orgfiles I link to many other files, mostly *.tex and *.pdf, links look 
like

[[./foo.pdf][About foo]]

Sometimes I can't avoid to link to doc  or docx files. So I need my linux pc to 
start word and load a certain file. 

I'd like to link to *.doc files in the same way:

[[./bar.doc][About that draft]]

But how can I set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file with MS Word under Linux?  
Word works, more or less. 

To start word the command is:

env WINEPREFIX="/home/AW/.wine-office" wine "C:\windows\command\start.exe" /Unix 
"/home/AW/.wine-office/dosdevices/c:/users/AW/Start Menu/Programs/Microsoft 
Office/Microsoft Word 2010.lnk"

But how in the world can I put in my .emacs file? I tried:

 (add-to-list 'org-file-apps 
   '("\\.doc" . "\"env WINEPREFIX="/home/AW/.wine-office" wine 
"C:/windows/command/start.exe" 
 /Unix "/home/AW/.wine-office/dosdevices/c:/users/AW/Start 
Menu/Programs/Microsoft Office/Microsoft Word 2010.lnk"\" %s"))

But I get:

Invalid read syntax: ". in wrong context"

Any suggestions would be welcome!

Regards,

Alexander

Re: Set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file under linux with Word ?

[Emanuel Berg]

AW <alexander.willand@t-online.de> writes:

> Wrong list! Sorry for the noise!

Well, there might be an even better list, but I don't
think this is OT on this list, on the contrary. I never
used wine, but did you try any of the Open, Libre, or
Star Office word processors? I don't know because I
don't use them but one would suspect they are capable
of doing transparent edits to Word documents. That way
you don't have to worry about wine.

-- 
Emanuel Berg, programmer-for-rent. CV, projects, etc at uXu
underground experts united:  http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

Re: Set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file under linux with Word ?

[Nick Dokos]

AW <alexander.willand@t-online.de> writes:

> Hi!
>
> I'm using orgmode as a replacement for folders, you know, real folders, lots 
> of paper inside. 
>
> In my orgfiles I link to many other files, mostly *.tex and *.pdf, links look 
> like
>
> [[./foo.pdf][About foo]]
>
> Sometimes I can't avoid to link to doc  or docx files. So I need my linux pc to 
> start word and load a certain file. 
>
> I'd like to link to *.doc files in the same way:
>
> [[./bar.doc][About that draft]]
>
> But how can I set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file with MS Word under Linux?  
> Word works, more or less. 
>
> To start word the command is:
>
> env WINEPREFIX="/home/AW/.wine-office" wine "C:\windows\command\start.exe" /Unix 
> "/home/AW/.wine-office/dosdevices/c:/users/AW/Start Menu/Programs/Microsoft 
> Office/Microsoft Word 2010.lnk"
>
> But how in the world can I put in my .emacs file? I tried:
>
>  (add-to-list 'org-file-apps 
>    '("\\.doc" . "\"env WINEPREFIX="/home/AW/.wine-office" wine 
> "C:/windows/command/start.exe" 
>  /Unix "/home/AW/.wine-office/dosdevices/c:/users/AW/Start 
> Menu/Programs/Microsoft Office/Microsoft Word 2010.lnk"\" %s"))
>

Off the top of my head, I would say

(add-to-list 'org-file-apps
             '("\\.doc" . "env WINEPREFIX=\"/home/AW/.wine-office\" wine \"C:\\windows\\command\\start.exe\" /Unix \"/home/AW/.wine-office/dosdevices/c:/users/AW/Start Menu/Programs/Microsoft Office/Microsoft Word 2010.lnk\""))


i.e. just the command you provided enclosed in double quotes, except that
certain characters within have to be escaped:

    " -> \"    
    \ -> \\

The long string will probably be broken up into multiple lines by some
mailer but it is supposed to be one long string with no newlines. I
don't know if the spaces in the path will cause problems.

Untested (except that I did evaluate the add-to-list and got no errors):
no Word and no wine here.

BTW, why not LibreOffice? Does it mishandle your .doc files?

Nick

Re: Set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file under linux with Word ?

[Jambunathan K]

Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com> writes:

> Off the top of my head, I would say
>
> (add-to-list 'org-file-apps
>              '("\\.doc" . "env WINEPREFIX=\"/home/AW/.wine-office\" wine \"C:\\windows\\command\\start.exe\" /Unix \"/home/AW/.wine-office/dosdevices/c:/users/AW/Start Menu/Programs/Microsoft Office/Microsoft Word 2010.lnk\""))
>
>
> i.e. just the command you provided enclosed in double quotes, except that
> certain characters within have to be escaped:

The easiest way to get the same effect is to use

    M-x customize-variable RET org-file-apps RET

and specify a command.  Once it is saved, the .emacs will have the
resulting "nightmarish string" :-)

----------------------------------------------------------------

Another way to "quote" a string would be to use

   M-x pp-eval-expression RET (read-string "Enter string: ") RET

and copy-paste the output from *Pp Eval Output* to .emacs or .el file.

Re: Set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file under linux with Word ?

[Jambunathan K]

Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com> writes:

> Off the top of my head, I would say
>
> (add-to-list 'org-file-apps
>              '("\\.doc" . "env WINEPREFIX=\"/home/AW/.wine-office\" wine \"C:\\windows\\command\\start.exe\" /Unix \"/home/AW/.wine-office/dosdevices/c:/users/AW/Start Menu/Programs/Microsoft Office/Microsoft Word 2010.lnk\""))
>
>
> i.e. just the command you provided enclosed in double quotes, except that
> certain characters within have to be escaped:
>
>     " -> \"    
>     \ -> \\
>
> The long string will probably be broken up into multiple lines by some
> mailer but it is supposed to be one long string with no newlines. I
> don't know if the spaces in the path will cause problems.
>
> Untested (except that I did evaluate the add-to-list and got no errors):
> no Word and no wine here.
>
> BTW, why not LibreOffice? Does it mishandle your .doc files?
>
> Nick

The easiest way to get the same effect is to use

    M-x customize-variable RET org-file-apps RET

and specify a command.  Once it is saved, the .emacs will have the
resulting "nightmarish string" :-)

----------------------------------------------------------------

Another way to "quote" a string would be to use

   M-x pp-eval-expression RET (read-string "Enter string: ") RET

and copy-paste the output from *Pp Eval Output* to .emacs or .el file.

Re: Set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file under linux with Word ?

[Achim Gratz]

AW <alexander.willand <at> t-online.de> writes:
> But how can I set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file with MS Word under Linux?

It's probably easiest to put that into a wrapper script and associate it
with .doc/.docx on your desktop environment.  That way you probably wouldn't
even need to customize anything within Emacs or at least could avoid the
vagaries of UNIX vs. Windows quoting.


Regards,
Achim.

Re: Set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file under linux with Word ?

[AW]

Am Mittwoch, 4. Dezember 2013, 18:26:46 schrieb Nick Nick Dokos:
> AW <alexander.willand@t-online.de> writes:
> > Hi!
... 
> Off the top of my head, I would say
> 
> (add-to-list 'org-file-apps
>              '("\\.doc" . "env WINEPREFIX=\"/home/AW/.wine-office\" wine
> \"C:\\windows\\command\\start.exe\" /Unix
> \"/home/AW/.wine-office/dosdevices/c:/users/AW/Start
> Menu/Programs/Microsoft Office/Microsoft Word 2010.lnk\""))
> 
> 
> i.e. just the command you provided enclosed in double quotes, except that
> certain characters within have to be escaped:
> 
>     " -> \"
>     \ -> \\
> 
> The long string will probably be broken up into multiple lines by some
> mailer but it is supposed to be one long string with no newlines. I
> don't know if the spaces in the path will cause problems.
> 
> Untested (except that I did evaluate the add-to-list and got no errors):
> no Word and no wine here.
> 

I get no error message, but nothing happens, except Emacs telling me it has 
run the command.

> BTW, why not LibreOffice? Does it mishandle your .doc files?

LibreOffice changes the content of word files slightly and for folks who panic if 
not everything is like expected, that's too much already.

You know, if you are the guy who works with LaTeX, word users tend to be 
somehow narrow minded.

However, thank you. I tried something different now: I wrote a bash script, 
just two lines:

#!/bin/bash

env WINEPREFIX="/home/AW/.wine-office" wine "C:\windows\command\start.exe" /Unix 
"/home/AW/.wine-office/dosdevices/c:/users/AW/Start Menu/Programs/Microsoft 
Office/Microsoft Word 2010.lnk"

On the command line "word.sh" works.

But in .emacs the lines

(add-to-list 'org-file-apps
             '("\\.docx" . "exec /home/AW/bin/word.sh %s"))

don't. What am I doing in the wrong way?

Regards, 

Alexander

Re: Set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file under linux with Word ?

[AW]

Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2013, 08:48:11 schrieb Jambunathan K:
> Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com> writes:
> > Off the top of my head, I would say
> > 
> > (add-to-list 'org-file-apps
> > 
> >              '("\\.doc" . "env WINEPREFIX=\"/home/AW/.wine-office\" wine
> >              \"C:\\windows\\command\\start.exe\" /Unix
> >              \"/home/AW/.wine-office/dosdevices/c:/users/AW/Start
> >              Menu/Programs/Microsoft Office/Microsoft Word 2010.lnk\""))> 
> > i.e. just the command you provided enclosed in double quotes, except that
> > 
> > certain characters within have to be escaped:
> >     " -> \"
> >     \ -> \\
> > 
> > The long string will probably be broken up into multiple lines by some
> > mailer but it is supposed to be one long string with no newlines. I
> > don't know if the spaces in the path will cause problems.
> > 
> > Untested (except that I did evaluate the add-to-list and got no errors):
> > no Word and no wine here.
> > 
> > BTW, why not LibreOffice? Does it mishandle your .doc files?
> > 
> > Nick
> 
> The easiest way to get the same effect is to use
> 
>     M-x customize-variable RET org-file-apps RET
> 
> and specify a command.  Once it is saved, the .emacs will have the
> resulting "nightmarish string" :-)
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Another way to "quote" a string would be to use
> 
>    M-x pp-eval-expression RET (read-string "Enter string: ") RET
> 
> and copy-paste the output from *Pp Eval Output* to .emacs or .el file.

Thank you, customization worked, but it did not start word -- I'm going 
another way now.

Regards,

Alexander

Re: Set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file under linux with Word ?

[AW]

Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2013, 09:01:40 schrieb  Achim Gratz:
> AW <alexander.willand <at> t-online.de> writes:
> > But how can I set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file with MS Word under
> > Linux?
> It's probably easiest to put that into a wrapper script and associate it
> with .doc/.docx on your desktop environment.  That way you probably wouldn't
> even need to customize anything within Emacs or at least could avoid the
> vagaries of UNIX vs. Windows quoting.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Achim.

Great idea, thank you! Doesn't work yet (I'm lacking of lisp knowledge very 
much), see my other mail re Nick Dokos.

Regards,

Alexander

Re: Set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file under linux with Word ?

[Jambunathan K]

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AW <alexander.willand@t-online.de> writes:

> Thank you, customization worked, but it did not start word -- I'm going 
> another way now.

I am playing a guessing game and don't know what I am saying.  Try this.


    M-: (shell-quote-argument (read-string "Enter string:"))
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

When prompted enter

    <whatever wine whatever> "%s"

Now put whatever string you get in *Pp Eval Output* DIRECTLY in to your
.emacs.  See the attached snippet.el for an idea of what I get.

Instead of passing env as part of the command, I think you can add this
to your .emacs.

    (setenv "WINEPREFIX" "/home/AW/.wine-office")

You can also do

    M-x setenv

to set environment variables.    


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Re: Set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file under linux with Word ?

[Jambunathan K]

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AW <alexander.willand@t-online.de> writes:
> Thank you, customization worked, but it did not start word -- I'm going 
> another way now.

I am playing a guessing game and really don't know what I am saying.

Try this.


    M-: (shell-quote-argument (read-string "Enter string:"))
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

When prompted enter

    whatever wine whatever "%s"

Now put whatever string you get in *Pp Eval Output* DIRECTLY in to your
.emacs.  See the attached snippet.el for what I get.

Instead of passing env as part of the command, I think you can add this
to your .emacs.

    (setenv "WINEPREFIX" "/home/AW/.wine-office")

You can also do

    M-x setenv

to set environment variables.    


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Re: Set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file under linux with Word ?

[AW]

Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2013, 20:51:04 schrieb Jambunathan K:
> AW <alexander.willand@t-online.de> writes:
> > Thank you, customization worked, but it did not start word -- I'm going
> > another way now.
> 
> I am playing a guessing game and really don't know what I am saying.
> 
> Try this.
> 
> 
>     M-: (shell-quote-argument (read-string "Enter string:"))
>          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> When prompted enter
> 
>     whatever wine whatever "%s"
> 
> Now put whatever string you get in *Pp Eval Output* DIRECTLY in to your
> .emacs.  See the attached snippet.el for what I get.
> 
> Instead of passing env as part of the command, I think you can add this
> to your .emacs.
> 
>     (setenv "WINEPREFIX" "/home/AW/.wine-office")
> 
> You can also do
> 
>     M-x setenv
> 
> to set environment variables.

I found out, that things are much more complicated: 

I wrote a bash script "word.sh" (see my other mail on this) and tried to figure 
out how to pass a filename to it. Even this is not obvious, because from the 
viewpoint of Word under Wine filenames differ from the real filename in the 
system. I did not suceed to make Word start and open a file foo.docx. You know, 
something weird as

"word.sh" "C:/users/AW/Meine Dokumente/Dokumente/temp/foo.docx"

made Word start, but not open a document, and Word complains about missing dot 
something. And often people send files with names which are a pain to read, 
including "$" -signs, brackets and whatever. 

The whole thing is way too difficult for me and I have to dismiss the idea.

Thanks to you and everyone who offered help, but it was not a good idea.

Regards,

Alexander

Re: Set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file under linux with Word ?

[Jambunathan K]

AW <alexander.willand@t-online.de> writes:

> I found out, that things are much more complicated:

Did you try my suggestion?

What happened?

I gave a snippet.el.  You just need to copy paste that to .emacs.  It is
easy to figure out where and how.

(I know nothing about shell programming or environment variables and
such things)

> Thanks to you and everyone who offered help, but it was not a good
> idea.

You are running away.  We aren't.

Give it a try, Buddy.  We will figure out something and make you happy.

Re: Set org-file-apps to open a *.doc file under linux with Word ?

[Achim Gratz]

AW writes:
> #!/bin/bash
>
> env WINEPREFIX="/home/AW/.wine-office" wine "C:\windows\command\start.exe" /Unix 
> "/home/AW/.wine-office/dosdevices/c:/users/AW/Start Menu/Programs/Microsoft 
> Office/Microsoft Word 2010.lnk"
>
> On the command line "word.sh" works.
>
> But in .emacs the lines
>
> (add-to-list 'org-file-apps
>              '("\\.docx" . "exec /home/AW/bin/word.sh %s"))
>
> don't. What am I doing in the wrong way?

"exec" is a shell built-in.  Try:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
#!/bin/sh
exec WINEPREFIX="/home/AW/.wine-office" \
 wine "C:\windows\command\start.exe" /Unix \
 "/home/AW/.wine-office/dosdevices/c:/users/AW/Start Menu/Programs/Microsoft Office/Microsoft Word 2010.lnk"
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Then drop the exec from the emacs association to docx.


Regards,
Achim.
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