From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Apologia for bzr Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 00:39:49 +0400 Message-ID: <87wqiglrze.fsf@yandex.ru> References: <20140102095347.6834E381D0C@snark.thyrsus.com> <87fvp6bdd9.fsf_-_@ktab.red-bean.com> <83wqiixqbb.fsf@gnu.org> <20140102172804.GB13245@thyrsus.com> <83vby2xo6x.fsf@gnu.org> <20140102183432.GB13506@thyrsus.com> <83sit6xgfg.fsf@gnu.org> <8761q18kni.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.org> <838uuxxsxu.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqihw42f.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388781631 13216 80.91.229.3 (3 Jan 2014 20:40:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 20:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, kfogel@red-bean.com, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, tsdh@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 03 21:40:36 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VzBXO-0008QH-2o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 21:40:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51748 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzBXN-0006Jg-OC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:40:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48782) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzBXF-0006G6-CS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:40:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzBXA-0000VO-0T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:40:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-la0-x22c.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c]:33385) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzBX9-0000VK-OU; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:39:55 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id e16so499902lan.3 for ; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 12:39:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=ps+9XdlfBnseenUzNM7ArVp/HzpS12flgqNdikevkQU=; b=nSJHggCUINlSTCwBCAzYiYXriyPz5iKm0ag7d1qlnqkb7pRL8fgVySbtDUh6TqqSgE fHpvPi45v95f/QUgv9jNXcFsE8MjGKUoD6pL7sN/KplMPSV1hE19+9hE2DMLDKsbVn3F oRYm2vEByWmYSdvP3IsWldmF+dokiAIVWgOEFZK01FvxrmJY0cfUmKYtqxr0wSTYG0mn nunpX3bNLNMS6FXhiHY6XXM9gpqYhdAFiMQBbvSaDGdmAvkDRYHRzzcOMDVocTCQxVAu VgvtEI+x+3aIBNvrbPrjw07XteMT8IJRQwqCJovxoBV3ids5BSUvSZ9syJMM26QEmkaF dBHQ== X-Received: by 10.152.115.130 with SMTP id jo2mr37719111lab.2.1388781594024; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 12:39:54 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from axl ([79.173.102.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i8sm37203762lbh.2.2014.01.03.12.39.52 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Jan 2014 12:39:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 03 Jan 2014 14:49:21 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167231 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > Using Git won't magically give us any new blood. But using Bzr is > a hindrance. A few years ago, users seemed happy to use Hg for one > project, Git for another, DaRCS for yet a third, etc.... > > Nowadays most users complain when they have to learn another tool. It could mean the users are getting more spoiled, or it could indicate increasing mainstream acceptance of Emacs, when it attracts more users who don't really like to learn new tools.