From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Stefan <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] trunk r116461: Connect electric-indent-mode up with CC Mode. Bug #15478.
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 15:59:09 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wqfkgk02.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvbnwwidf9.fsf-monnier+emacsdiffs@gnu.org>
Stefan writes:
> > In text mode, if the buffer contains
> > -----------------------------------------
> > foo
> > bar
> > -----------------------------------------
>
> > and point is at the start of the second line, and I type RET, it gives
>
> > -----------------------------------------
> > foo
> >
> > bar
> > -----------------------------------------
>
> > This is clearly wrong.
>
> I don't see what is "clear" about it being wrong, sorry.
> I see you don't like it (and Richard apparently doesn't like it either),
> but that's a different problem.
It would be nice if you guys would avoid using keystrokes instead of
commands in this discussion. I think it's perfectly reasonable to
swap the usage of CR and LF from `newline' and `newline-and-indent' to
`newline-and-indent' and `newline', respectively. That may disconcert
us oldtimers, but I suspect it's what newcomers to Emacs will expect.[1]
And it's easy enough to "fix" if you don't like it. But I hope that's
not what Alan's talking about, although it's entirely unclear to me if
that's what Stefan's talking about.
That is, if what Alan means by "type RET" is "type a keystroke bound
to `newline'", then my preference accords with his. For my usage that
behavior is *clearly* *wrong*, as in text modes when there's leading
whitespace on a line, either *I* put it there, or some electrically-
crapified command that I just disabled the electricity on did (and it
won't happen again, so there's no reason not to fix it by hand this
time).
Footnotes:
[1] I got used to it in Python-mode quite readily, despite continuing
to use the traditional bindings for RET and C-j in other modes.
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2014-02-18 0:11 ` [Emacs-diffs] trunk r116461: Connect electric-indent-mode up with CC Mode. Bug #15478 Stefan Monnier
2014-02-22 18:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-02-25 3:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-28 19:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-01 15:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-02 11:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-04 3:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-08 22:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-09 1:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-09 12:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-10 3:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-10 6:59 ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-10 12:24 ` João Távora
2014-03-10 18:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-16 22:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-17 15:48 ` Stefan
2014-03-19 22:42 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-20 1:46 ` Stefan
2014-03-20 8:35 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-03-21 8:24 ` João Távora
2014-03-22 13:13 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-22 16:14 ` Stefan
2014-03-22 20:19 ` David Caldwell
2014-03-22 22:05 ` David Kastrup
2014-03-22 22:32 ` David Caldwell
2014-03-24 1:13 ` Stefan
2014-03-22 22:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-24 1:37 ` Stefan
2014-03-24 22:40 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-25 1:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-26 20:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-27 8:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-30 14:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-31 17:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-04-03 21:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-25 1:54 ` Stefan
2014-03-26 21:21 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-27 14:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-30 11:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-30 16:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-22 23:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-24 1:39 ` Stefan
2014-03-24 6:59 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2014-03-24 9:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-24 17:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-24 17:29 ` David Kastrup
2014-03-24 17:39 ` David Kastrup
2014-03-24 17:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-24 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-25 1:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-25 3:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-24 18:32 ` Stefan
2014-03-25 1:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-25 7:44 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-25 8:08 ` Steinar Bang
2014-03-25 16:49 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-25 17:08 ` Steinar Bang
2014-03-25 17:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-25 19:28 ` Steinar Bang
2014-03-25 19:49 ` David Kastrup
2014-03-25 19:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-25 13:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-27 7:51 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-24 21:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
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