From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Conkeror-like functionality for EWW Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2014 12:13:03 -0800 Message-ID: <87wq7cf3g0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87vbtdz513.fsf@gmail.com> <87oasobdtl.fsf@lifelogs.com> <877fzci0g9.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415046478 3086 80.91.229.3 (3 Nov 2014 20:27:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 20:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 03 21:27:51 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XlOEA-0001hW-51 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2014 21:27:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37238 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XlOE9-0001DT-OC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2014 15:27:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48412) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XlO0F-00027V-97 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2014 15:13:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XlO05-0005rN-0L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2014 15:13:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-f50.google.com ([209.85.220.50]:64835) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XlO04-0005r2-Qp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2014 15:13:16 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id eu11so12824063pac.37 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2014 12:13:15 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=dwQBh5azMmfci5LUw2aB5Abcs7vlDbhPrzVE1GUBrcg=; b=YE3MSGWlUg3JykK6Sqx3ybk+jEEUpbFzPLh+aKQfdaAdOeBhKZSvWtiZ0dJhdx2L+S pE3gFqmG6A1PlZ1rVo0IUex7+b7u/YO2Oi6F5AwGLiFg0KM1bGgxZyZvl9EsQPJ094/Y Vcmsx8Jz9HyrNcfn6whoG0AFHm8ejh5aCR8lL6l3fMTRaSFBMiGh98cLPO44F6LGNZUL BS1aY2vyZOlixRrm7SX2yEFHqe5ZrU+Z1hI4btcgzQuEiHogoBNSVLwhlwJh0volQ75p GWJ9osvJFXwA09781Ru40xwML33KPHkGzs78hjszRCGEKBDaRfjpSvxdZIfdyVc0EmJk Qxvg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkwkLtvfkRUC+oGBtiJTqavV9TXHFN2NqwTI3cLWCzrTP2nMvwhTCXNbD2yVWsJHhrG6wHS X-Received: by 10.70.38.198 with SMTP id i6mr4352018pdk.93.1415045595359; Mon, 03 Nov 2014 12:13:15 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost ([63.226.249.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id df1sm17911758pbb.2.2014.11.03.12.13.07 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Nov 2014 12:13:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 03 Nov 2014 20:20:38 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.220.50 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 03 Nov 2014 15:27:01 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176311 Archived-At: On 11/03/14 20:20 PM, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> I'm a conkeror user, and find this system a wonderful way to avoid the >> mouse. One key feature is that, in addition to typing the number, you >> can type a substring of the anchor text, and conkeror will progressively >> narrow down the set of matching links, often until there's only one, and >> you just hit RET. For certain types of website, you could wear out your >> TAB key before you found the link you wanted. > > I haven't used Conkeror, but it's basically a browser like Firefox, > right? So you don't have a cursor that you can move around? > > In that case, jumping to numbered links makes more sense, but in Emacs, > you can just hold down the `down' key a bit to move past masses of > links, or whatever. Moving around in en Emacs buffer is usually not > really that much work. > > In Firefox, though, it's pretty awful. If you don't use the mouse > there, you have to TAB forever. Yeah, it's actually built on xulrunner, which is firefox's guts. But it's heavily influenced by emacs (uses a bunch of the same keybindings, concepts and terminology), so cross-pollination would be amusing. Not using the mouse at all is a stated goal. Obviously some people will find link-jumping crucial, others not. But those who like it *really* like it. Perhaps a plug-in for ace-jump-mode would be sufficient. Eric