From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:27:18 +0000 Message-ID: <87wq72ls2h.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> References: <87a943umku.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ppcvm7fj.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87vbmndk46.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415651277 20821 80.91.229.3 (10 Nov 2014 20:27:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:27:57 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 10 21:27:51 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XnvYx-00064L-01 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:27:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45002 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XnvYw-000382-Gz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:27:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37194) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XnvYf-00037x-BS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:27:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XnvYZ-00079L-5A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:27:29 -0500 Original-Received: from static.17.66.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.66.17]:55066 helo=po1.ferrier.me.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XnvYY-00075X-VU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:27:23 -0500 Original-Received: from nicferrier-dell-xps (140.35.155.90.in-addr.arpa [90.155.35.140]) by po1.ferrier.me.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E0E19AC011A; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:45:37 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from nicferrier-XPS13-9333 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nicferrier-dell-xps (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 866626BA00; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:27:18 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <87vbmndk46.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:46:17 -0500") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 78.46.66.17 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176711 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > Yes. I think that's what Stefan was asking for. But Stefan seems to > prefer the elpakit approach, which is fine too (Nic has a nice > comparison section at https://github.com/nicferrier/elpakit). > > (Stefan: would you and the other maintainers be open to Cask+Pallet > *and* elpakit in Emacs? Or is that too much choice?) I don't think that was Stefan's position. His position was "can we have this feature?" I don't think he cares who does it or how it's done. I'll add the feature he wants via bits of elpakit. I'm not sure the rest of elpakit is needed. Maybe it is. I am still cross about the whole state of packaging. It's wrong. But no one seems to be listening to me. /me throws toys down, kicks trumpet, shoves hands in pockets and stands in corner. Nic