From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Shmakov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19583: nntp-open-server: wrong buffer for nnoo-change-server; breaks url-news Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 17:50:16 +0000 Message-ID: <87wq4qwox3.fsf@violet.siamics.net> References: <874mruy80m.fsf@violet.siamics.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1421171991 6938 80.91.229.3 (13 Jan 2015 17:59:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 17:59:51 +0000 (UTC) To: 19583@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 13 18:59:46 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YB5kn-0002vY-87 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 18:59:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40653 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YB5km-0000Y1-94 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 12:59:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55545) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YB5cS-0002A7-MG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 12:51:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YB5cN-0004Sr-MR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 12:51:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46850) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YB5cM-0004Sh-TV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 12:51:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YB5cM-0006ed-Il; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 12:51:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ivan Shmakov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 17:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19583 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 19583-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19583.142117143925521 (code B ref 19583); Tue, 13 Jan 2015 17:51:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19583) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2015 17:50:39 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55704 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YB5bu-0006dV-Qo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 12:50:38 -0500 Original-Received: from fely.am-1.org ([78.47.74.50]:49198) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YB5bo-0006dG-1X for 19583@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 12:50:32 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=ypy39k5AGqfeHS3IMhStKC+03H4k7FQ5zujR/qSktvk=; b=J7pnfxtTUmiGGqMtOI9FqphGhghH9EIF4kw/qhfViW6ecf0Zxj0Eb1+d7PvuTxg5ZsYY138/nFWmGGNB3DXYNFHAX0xdLOYzLwQwSiKTZIXLO4DeKYilFZGdOmDkSt4v+HHakMWqw0ZAnyP4u+LirIId+mVNEkKIax1k1udW1C0=; Original-Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YB5bk-0001vI-D2 for 19583@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 17:50:24 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YB5bd-0003fz-7G for 19583@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 00:50:17 +0700 Mail-Followup-To: 19583@debbugs.gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 13 Jan 2015 18:28:21 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:98321 Archived-At: >>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >>>>> Ivan Shmakov writes: >> As of 88bc8332eb14 (2015-01-07 13:51:41 +0000), nntp-open-server >> appears to call nnoo-change-server without switching to >> nntp-server-buffer first, thus installing the local variables in the >> whatever buffer current at the time it=E2=80=99s called. [=E2=80=A6] >> This affects url-retrieve-synchronously; consider, e. g.: > Since this hasn't worked in a year, this suggests that `url-news' > isn't used any more. I suggest removing it. Does the above mean that nntp-open-server is only used by =E2=80=98url-news=E2=80=99 (and thus could be removed once it=E2=80=99s go= ne), /or/ does that mean that =E2=80=98url-news=E2=80=99 fails to call =E2=80=98nntp-open= -server=E2=80=99 properly (in which case, what=E2=80=99s the correct way to call it)? (My understanding of the nntp-open-server code is that it /does/ indeed have a bug, which is somehow /not/ triggered by Gnus, but /may/ very well be triggered by just whatever other code that=E2=80=99d happen to call it.) Incidentally, there=E2=80=99s a reason for me to support the removal of url-news.el from Emacs proper, as (I guess) it would make it a bit easier for me to offer it as a separate package. --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://boycottsystemd.org/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A