From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rant - Elisp terminology is deceptive Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 01:48:02 +0100 Message-ID: <87wq4ddmwt.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1422060535 27073 80.91.229.3 (24 Jan 2015 00:48:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:48:55 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 24 01:48:55 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YEouE-0002gm-8Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2015 01:48:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33685 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YEouD-0008Mh-Hx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 19:48:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36238) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YEotw-0008MX-Sw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 19:48:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YEotq-0008Tw-Jx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 19:48:36 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:60008) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YEoth-0008NR-RJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 19:48:30 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YEotZ-00020b-Qf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2015 01:48:13 +0100 Original-Received: from 129.red-88-10-128.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([88.10.128.129]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2015 01:48:13 +0100 Original-Received: from ofv by 129.red-88-10-128.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2015 01:48:13 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.red-88-10-128.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/vh3GNjhyAIFz4arn5yhrI2E9ak= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181704 Archived-At: Kelly Dean writes: > Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I tend to agree. This "default-value" and "setq-default" dates back >> to the very beginning of time, tho. > > Would renaming them be acceptable, so long as the old names are kept > as aliases for backward compatibility? I don't think the names > ⌜global-value⌝, ⌜setq-global⌝, and ⌜set-global⌝ would cause any > confusion with any other concepts in Emacs, and they're unlikely to > conflict with anybody's custom code. >From etc/NEWS.18 ** Functions `global-set' and `global-value' deleted. These functions were never used except by mistake by users expecting the functionality of `set-default' and `default-value'. :-)