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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@snark.thyrsus.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Defending GCC considered futile
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 14:50:04 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wq3rocqb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1YKbqJ-0003kT-LQ@fencepost.gnu.org>

Richard Stallman writes:

 > From its name, I guess that LLDB is a noncopylefted debugger

It is.

 > and that some might intend it to replace GDB.

I think everyone working on it does, in the sense that lldb should
include any functionality that's useful in a debugger, which
presumably will be a superset of current gdb features.

 > Does anyone here know enough about LLDB to answer my questions?

Beyond that I can say that on one platform (Mac OS X using clang 3.5)
where the available gdb throws so many <optimized out> values for
function arguments and local variables as to be nearly useless in
debugging code optimized to the production configuration, lldb usually
can tell actual values and is thus much more useful.  I can't say
whether this extends to GNU/Linux as I only use gdb there, although
the frequency of <optimized out> is indeed a PITA on GNU/Linux too.

Ah, it appears that a reasonably recent gdb has appeared in MacPorts
since I last checked.  I'll have to try that.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-09  5:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-07 20:29 Defending GCC considered futile Eric S. Raymond
2015-02-07 21:24 ` David Kastrup
2015-02-09  0:04   ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-07 22:30 ` Florian Weimer
2015-02-08 14:12   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-09 19:39     ` Florian Weimer
2015-02-09 22:04   ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-02-09  0:04 ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-09  4:13   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-09  5:50   ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2015-02-09 22:06     ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-09 22:24       ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-02-10  3:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-10  8:30           ` Daniel Colascione
2015-02-10  8:47             ` Helmut Eller
2015-02-10 15:58               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-10 15:57             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-10 18:19               ` Daniel Colascione
2015-02-10 18:41                 ` David Kastrup
2015-02-10 19:27                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-10 19:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-10 20:05                   ` David Kastrup
2015-02-10 23:14                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-11  3:46                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-11 23:11                     ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-10 22:48         ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-11  2:08           ` John Yates
2015-02-11 15:42           ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-02-11 16:14             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-11 16:29               ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-02-11 16:44                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-11 16:54                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-11 20:50                     ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-02-12  3:37                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-12  3:54                         ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-02-11 19:14                 ` Florian Weimer
2015-02-11 19:19                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-11 23:13                 ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-12  1:48               ` raman
2015-02-11 23:13             ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-09  7:41   ` Helmut Eller
2015-02-09 19:30   ` Florian Weimer
2015-02-09 22:41     ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-02-10 22:46     ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-09 22:19   ` Perry E. Metzger

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