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Turnbull" , emacs-devel To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 20 10:36:03 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoSOS-0005EF-Mx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 10:35:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44532 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoSOS-0005kk-1o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 04:35:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54201) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoSMy-0004K7-U3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 04:34:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoSMx-0005ve-T0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 04:34:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x236.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::236]:34474) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoSMx-0005vV-Gv; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 04:34:07 -0400 Original-Received: by wikq8 with SMTP id q8so34819933wik.1; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 01:34:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=60STSwHD59VtXQ7EkDQ08CFvj7WbvXZ0NUkl84gfTo0=; b=yAkrOnDgg9xm+e7yagi4C068kFzDOt2KDOy3ofELImLZ1TKo4Uw+rfZ6TtFVeBQ7x8 wKYdGTC/MSB7Jv/DCbOy44fqZK0/NrUdmj20AMxRS0zBnm104c411GTy9e79Qe9A17RF QEH031fJsNOsFS19Wj0Sfl+i78PbvWJJWHfn7KhhCouWK8WgPwboJTUzqlhatwFtTdv8 U6QYghqf8ZiPOV9QBkC63IxVpgQxx8RnarL1Gl/2RZGqy+Ko7jTBJ2+1XNrei3DBaCoW EsDpgDHPvvWwOnce0FciRvSGqUfou6AN5JtgrN81JKZes39csHPXAdRwZMSd0wxrNdpj e9GA== X-Received: by 10.194.10.162 with SMTP id j2mr2513249wjb.43.1445330047030; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 01:34:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from T420.taylan ([2a02:908:c32:4740:221:ccff:fe66:68f0]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i3sm18311251wij.9.2015.10.20.01.34.05 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Oct 2015 01:34:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87oafugeia.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (David Kastrup's message of "Tue, 20 Oct 2015 09:55:57 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::236 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192165 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > taylanbayirli@gmail.com (Taylan Ulrich "Bay=C4=B1rl=C4=B1/Kammer") writes: > >> This tells me that this development community (or at least certain >> people in it) don't want my contribution for inexplicable reasons, in >> particular not technical reasons. I do not see any possible sensible >> definition of "the needs of the Emacs Project" that would lead to the >> behavior I've seen from certain people here, so I disagree absolutely >> that it could possibly be a misunderstanding on my side. >> >> >> Moreover, I've been warned about emacs-devel by multiple people before, >> and about a certain member of it in particular, and I did not believe it >> could possibly be this bad. > > You don't need to speak in riddles. I am quite used to seeing my name > explicitly written in such contexts. This had nothing to do with you. The bug report discussion hopefully makes it clear who I'm talking about. Sorry about the misunderstanding, really. > However, if you take the time and sort the replies according to their > authors and look at what each individual actually has been writing > rather than your current recollection, you'll find that your impression > of an ongoing attack is simply untenable. Even if you focus on my > contributions to that thread (and I'm not really much of a regular or > typical here even though I have tried providing missing perspectives to > several recent discussions recently with, I hope, mostly constructive > results). > > The impression of a concerted attack that you fancy comes more about by > several people sharing the same opinion and experience than by an > insider/outsider setting and your recollection gets carried away with > what you want to remember about the discussion. > > Really, reread the stuff and in particular find the parts that you > remember as being particularly egregious. You'll find that your > recollection is playing games with you more than the people on this list > are. > >> Lest you think this is an isolated case. Maybe the previous victims >> were less outspoken so the majority of the community still doesn't see >> that there's a serious problem. > > If everybody tells you the same, chances are that "everybody is wrong > then" is not the whole truth. Really sorry that I had you waste time writing all this, it really had nothing to do with you. :-) I could have been clearer in who I meant. Taylan