From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Tromey Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:43:44 -0600 Message-ID: <87wpui4uun.fsf@tromey.com> References: <561A19AB.5060001@cumego.com> <87d1weo7u9.fsf@gnu.org> <83zizi3qr0.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhb1n81y.fsf@gnu.org> <83si594wt3.fsf@gnu.org> <87io64iigs.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3kso1gr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wpuks5ek.fsf@T420.taylan> <83vba4i1z3.fsf@gnu.org> <87pp0cqgjf.fsf@T420.taylan> <83twpoi0sp.fsf@gnu.org> <878u70qf75.fsf@T420.taylan> <83mvvghydi.fsf@gnu.org> <5623E3B5.8050407@dancol.org> <87y4f0kos9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5623EAB2.5000008@dancol.org> <87pp0cotqd.fsf@T420.taylan> <5623F7E2.3010200@dancol.org> <87d1wbp9uv.fsf@T420.taylan> <22052.51982.9833.353851@turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445276922 14281 80.91.229.3 (19 Oct 2015 17:48:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Taylan Ulrich =?utf-8?B?QmF5xLFybMSx?= /Kammer , Daniel Colascione , David Kastrup , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 19 19:48:30 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoEXt-0004ig-Am for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:48:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41327 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoEXs-0000UJ-Jx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:48:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41672) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoETi-0002oe-15 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:44:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoETe-000640-Tx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:44:09 -0400 Original-Received: from gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com ([69.89.20.226]:44949) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoETe-00063E-LY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:44:06 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 4701 invoked by uid 0); 19 Oct 2015 17:43:54 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy10.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2015 17:43:54 -0000 Original-Received: from box522.bluehost.com ([74.220.219.122]) by cmgw2 with id X5jl1r02E2f2jeq015joxE; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:43:52 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Jv9i8qIC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=GsOEXm/OWkKvwdLVJsfwcA==:117 a=GsOEXm/OWkKvwdLVJsfwcA==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=zstS-IiYAAAA:8 a=PnD2wP_eR3oA:10 a=_emWc-O_5N4A:10 a=5lJygRwiOn0A:10 a=LgwLjdpzqsB-38QldUUA:9 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tromey.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=yGluLKRTBXnBcxlF1Ic12S1TCl8AJyhy5DQPsiHKGLw=; b=DlBb7+AYeU0vBQpxQ2bq8BE6qJcBtM5828dtoYj45lazH6enMZ/eujLIKZTiqXYRCrKwQ8aq14F/4gRWXg1eKpxgc1sGrjO7FMz2UTSiKg5kw3dwTVCdnpPL2rYxy72D; Original-Received: from [65.128.79.106] (port=57418 helo=pokyo) by box522.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoETL-0002dL-Fj; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:43:47 -0600 X-Attribution: Tom In-Reply-To: <22052.51982.9833.353851@turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:50:53 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Identified-User: {36111:box522.bluehost.com:elynrobi:tromey.com} {sentby:smtp auth 65.128.79.106 authed with tom+tromey.com} X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 69.89.20.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192120 Archived-At: Stephen> If we can really rewrite all of Emacs with the exception of device Stephen> drivers in Guile, then I'd definitely be excited (I think that's what Stephen> Tom Tromey is talking about). No, I'm interested in writing Emacs in Emacs Lisp and evolving Emacs Lisp in place; and against the Guile/Emacs thing, for basically the same reasons as Daniel. Tom