From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nix Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Ping! Re: `font-spec` unable to retrieve :name of font Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 14:10:17 +0000 Message-ID: <87wpu97mba.fsf@esperi.org.uk> References: <87bnc3plb9.fsf@gmail.com> <87r3kngugm.fsf@gmail.com> <83k2qft0ej.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9lhucxx.fsf@gmail.com> <87611wcg97.fsf@esperi.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445868652 8923 80.91.229.3 (26 Oct 2015 14:10:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 14:10:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Alexis , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 26 15:10:51 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZqiU4-0006J2-VO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2015 15:10:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53197 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZqiU4-0001mP-Gg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2015 10:10:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40181) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZqiTs-0001kF-QQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2015 10:10:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZqiTn-0006xi-UV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2015 10:10:36 -0400 Original-Received: from icebox.esperi.org.uk ([81.187.191.129]:43868 helo=mail.esperi.org.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZqiTi-0006sj-3c; Mon, 26 Oct 2015 10:10:26 -0400 Original-Received: from spindle (nix@spindle.srvr.nix [192.168.14.15]) by mail.esperi.org.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id t9QEAHnR016374; Mon, 26 Oct 2015 14:10:17 GMT Emacs: don't cry -- it won't help. In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 24 Oct 2015 11:04:42 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-wuwien-Metrics: spindle 1290; Body=4 Fuz1=4 Fuz2=4 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 81.187.191.129 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192658 Archived-At: On 24 Oct 2015, Drew Adams said: >> after all, the XLFD variant is never going to be displayed to the user, >> nor passed to Fontconfig: it's just an internal thing for parts of >> Emacs expecting XLFDs. > > Just a comment on this part of what you wrote. > > XLFD format _is_ visible to users. And it can be used by them. > > I use it, for example, to transform a font to another of a > different size, resulting also in a frame of a different size. > This use case is quite important to my use of Emacs, FWIW. In that case we need an escaping mechanism even more :) it just needs to gain an additional requirement: not to be pig ugly. -- NULL && (void)