From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Status of multicolor fonts? Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:56:16 +0100 Message-ID: <87wpse49jj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <567169C8.9010006@gmail.com> <838u4u1jjp.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2oel517.fsf@fastmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1450284997 762 80.91.229.3 (16 Dec 2015 16:56:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 16:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Random832 Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 16 17:56:36 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a9FNU-0004At-KS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:56:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48290 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a9FNU-0001JR-5u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 11:56:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39862) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a9FNH-0001JK-SA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 11:56:24 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a9FNH-0006Rb-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 11:56:23 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39858) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a9FNB-0006QA-Iu; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 11:56:17 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36286 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1a9FNA-0003Ie-Lf; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 11:56:16 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2DCBAE0009; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:56:16 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87k2oel517.fsf@fastmail.com> (Random's message of "Wed, 16 Dec 2015 11:41:40 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196388 Archived-At: Random832 writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: >> If your application needs that, you don't have to wait for this to be >> supported in the core. It should be very easy to write Lisp code that >> generated faces with specific colors > > I'm not sure if you understand the feature being requested. This is not > a font that specifies a foreground and background color per character, > it is a font that defines a character as a full-color graphic image > (e.g. the US flag in red, white, and blue with shadows and highlights, > though flags specifically are ligatures of two characters) > > The variation selectors are specifically to replace the "skin color" > (typically yellow by default on the fonts that support them) with a > selected natural human skin color. I think they're actually implemented > by selecting another graphic entirely, since some implementations also > have different hair colors. Requiring colored font support for the sake of supporting racist subdivision of "emojis". Whoever sold that idea to the Unicode consortium could certainly become a career lobbyist if he isn't yet. Couldn't they have found a more dignified reason for putting forward this technical challenge? -- David Kastrup