From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: The poor state of documentation of pcase like things. Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2016 16:15:10 +0100 Message-ID: <87wprqitj5.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20151216202605.GA3752@acm.fritz.box> <87io3m60bq.fsf@web.de> <877fk1nnk0.fsf@web.de> <8760zlue3j.fsf@gmail.com> <87vb7kajgv.fsf@web.de> <83y4c9ag06.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn95m9eg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5686CDFB.2010105@dancol.org> <83fuygcs5g.fsf@gnu.org> <56886E32.70305@yandex.ru> <83si2f9ve4.fsf@gnu.org> <56889EC3.3040108@yandex.ru> <877fjrkpdf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <56892334.4000106@yandex.ru> <8760zakb7q.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <56892BDA.6060103@dancol.org> <871t9yk98g.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <568936F0.3060505@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451836124 21882 80.91.229.3 (3 Jan 2016 15:48:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 15:48:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, Eli Zaretskii , Daniel Colascione , emacs-tangents@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 03 16:48:43 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aFktf-0007xZ-3v for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 16:48:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42064 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFkte-00039y-HK for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 10:48:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45270) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFkNL-0002j7-T3 for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 10:15:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFkNL-00070o-6y for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 10:15:19 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42392) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFkNE-0006xo-6Y; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 10:15:12 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38820 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aFkNC-0000uj-UJ; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 10:15:11 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 82C86DF551; Sun, 3 Jan 2016 16:15:10 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <568936F0.3060505@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Sun, 3 Jan 2016 16:57:52 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 03 Jan 2016 10:48:42 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.tangents:70 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 01/03/2016 04:50 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > >> So it should not get fixed or made more consistent with expectations? > > I think you should file bug(s) with specific examples and improvements. > >> Its forced use of `quasiquote' where `quote' would suffice were it >> properly implemented is a contributor to the "there must be something >> non-obvious going on" impression. > > IIUC, you can use quotes where they would "suffice". So why would people write (pcase exp (`nil nil) ... ? What's with the overuse of quasiquote? -- David Kastrup