From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.orgmode,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 21:57:02 +0100 Message-ID: <87wpd82twh.fsf@engster.org> References: <87k29d7zvw.fsf@engster.org> <87fuk08i01.fsf@engster.org> <87d1f36xnc.fsf@engster.org> <83tw8cv6pj.fsf@gnu.org> <8760kseb7e.fsf@engster.org> <83o9ykuy5r.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1486069088 24131 195.159.176.226 (2 Feb 2017 20:58:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 20:58:08 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, bzg@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 02 21:58:01 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cZOS5-0005rW-6f for geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2017 21:57:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58984 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZOSA-0001yK-Qx for geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2017 15:58:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46321) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZORL-0001ua-Ki for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2017 15:57:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZORI-0005eL-5B for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2017 15:57:11 -0500 Original-Received: from randomsample.de ([5.45.97.173]:36382) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZORH-0005dn-Rr; Thu, 02 Feb 2017 15:57:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=7tIBYsVqVXj9XM00ofEqgIN49AE/I2PsyAqUDtJRNGA=; b=lcNZPpljWAXUtmlannJjd1LpXou2efxg+I+/6ENmBRsX1ZawMxNoMHw60lEJ9RBCirl+7sMzoe5EB3xQPSTKzGRp9+3a1ivN1SaT8ZVg3Zfkt5I5rd+vmBT6NtwieGvg; Original-Received: from [77.22.179.83] (helo=isaac) by randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1cZORE-00071e-2M; Thu, 02 Feb 2017 21:57:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83o9ykuy5r.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 02 Feb 2017 22:37:36 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 5.45.97.173 X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.orgmode:111876 gmane.emacs.devel:211894 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: David Engster >> Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , bzg@gnu.org, >> emacs-devel@gnu.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, > >> which implies that they are not supposed to be present at a "normal" >> checkout. > > I don't see how it implies that. Release tarballs are prepared > specially for a release, so their build procedures don't have to be > identical to building from Git. > >> Otherwise, what difference would it make? > > Ask the package maintainers, they see significant advantages in being > able to release interim versions independent of Emacs releases. But we are discussing moving CEDET, Gnus and Org out of Emacs core, and at least the former two do not plan to provide updates between Emacs releases. We already had this discussion in 2015, where John was pretty determined to remove CEDET from core: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-11/msg00877.html -David