all messages for Emacs-related lists mirrored at yhetil.org
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net
To: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com>
Cc: 25122@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Boruch Baum <boruch_baum@gmx.com>
Subject: bug#25122: 24.5; function describe-variable hangs on large variables
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 10:15:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wpbu7f9i.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d1dnrq96.fsf@gmail.com> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Sun,  12 Mar 2017 06:57:41 +0100")

Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com> writes:

> npostavs@users.sourceforge.net writes:
>
>> and suspend it after printing X lines.
>
> Instead just print something like "Computing foo value ..." and let finish
> the thread, letting user reading and moving cursor in docstring while it
> finishes, once done save-excursion and send message "Computing foo value
> done".

Threads aren't truly parallel.  The user can't do anything while the
thread is running.

>
>> Then hitting RET on "..."  would just print another X lines.
>
> I think like Drew that this would be annoying.

I wonder if we could just hook this into scrolling somehow?  So the
lines would only be printed when you scroll to look at them.

>
> That said, what's the reason of choosing the slower approach to compute
> value (in a thread or not) instead of using the approach described in
> the advice I sent here which takes 1s to compute load-history instead of
> 3mn ? (I use this advice since one year now without any problems).

As mentioned in https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=21717#8,
it breaks circularity.  Try describing this variable:

    (defvar circular-list
      (let ((l (number-sequence 1 100)))
        (setcdr (last l) l)
        l)
      "A circular list that has problems with (mapc 'pp val).")

We could probably achieve something similar without breaking circular
printing by not calling indent-sexp on the full list, but 1s is longer
than "instant" anyway (which is about 50ms or less) which is why I'm
exploring other options.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-03-12 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-06  2:21 bug#25122: 24.5; function describe-variable hangs on large variables Boruch Baum
2016-12-06  6:41 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2016-12-07  3:50   ` npostavs
2016-12-07  8:58     ` Thierry Volpiatto
2017-03-11  5:40       ` npostavs
2017-03-11 15:33         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-11 19:29           ` Thierry Volpiatto
2017-03-11 21:59             ` npostavs
2017-03-11 23:55               ` Drew Adams
2017-03-12  5:57               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2017-03-12 14:07                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-12 14:15                 ` npostavs [this message]
2017-03-12 14:59                   ` Drew Adams
2017-03-12 16:29                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-12 16:32                   ` npostavs
2017-03-13  4:47                     ` npostavs
2017-03-13 14:01                       ` npostavs
2017-03-16  2:54                         ` npostavs
2017-04-18  3:53                           ` npostavs
2017-04-22 18:25                             ` npostavs
2017-04-26  3:57                               ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-04-26 10:35                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-03-11 19:34         ` Thierry Volpiatto
2017-03-12 16:07           ` npostavs
2017-03-11 15:21   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-11 15:35     ` npostavs
2017-03-11 19:26     ` Thierry Volpiatto

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=87wpbu7f9i.fsf@users.sourceforge.net \
    --to=npostavs@users.sourceforge.net \
    --cc=25122@debbugs.gnu.org \
    --cc=boruch_baum@gmx.com \
    --cc=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca \
    --cc=thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.