From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [GNU-Emacs] request: better subject lines Date: Thu, 04 May 2017 04:01:38 +0200 Message-ID: <87wp9xtm65.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <874lx5dhwd.fsf@pippiandcarlos.com> <20170502122324867083797@bob.proulx.com> <20170502230426626149279@bob.proulx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1493863355 786 195.159.176.226 (4 May 2017 02:02:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 02:02:35 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 04 04:02:31 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d6669-0008Tb-Vp for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 May 2017 04:02:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39374 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d666B-0006NJ-1T for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 May 2017 22:02:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41402) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d665d-0006MI-Ie for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 May 2017 22:01:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d665a-00028u-Ge for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 May 2017 22:01:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=59120 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d665a-00028U-9b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 May 2017 22:01:54 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d665S-0007oi-Ad for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 May 2017 04:01:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 40 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:m1LeCBuY5ClEUpm3wqBEDNjOLMA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:112949 Archived-At: Bob Proulx writes: > For those wishing to read up on the saga these three > in this order should get you up to speed on things. > > https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/ I read that article back then, and I remember on one of the groups (be it gmane.discuss) everyone, including YT, encouraged Lars not to quit or to have it handed over to someone else. What I remember he all but instantly agreed not to have Gmane disappear completely. How anyone can have an IT job, Gnus, Gmane, what's-the-name-of-the-web-browser (including documentation) *and* a blog is beyond me. I don't know, man. Anyway if you read that article, you *do* get the impression that it is the archive and web interface that is the key part of Gmane. So maybe people actually used that! Except for this paragraph that sums it all up: The nice thing about a mailing list archive (with NNTP and HTTP interfaces) is that it enables software maintainers to say (whenever somebody suggests using Spiffy Collaboration Tool of the Month instead of yucky mailing lists) is “well, just read the stuff on Gmane, then”. I feel like I’m letting down a generation here. Ha ha, I likewise very much dislike the "SCTs"! -- underground experts united .... http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 Emacs Gnus Blogomatic ......... http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/blogomatic - so far: 26 Blogomatic articles -