From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs user manual in Spanish Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 01:27:34 +0200 Message-ID: <87wp7qxvvd.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <20170702082424.GA3364@workstation> <86h8yuy7v1.fsf@zoho.com> <5ac97eb4-d897-4c35-b095-e76250398400@default> <8637aexz6l.fsf@zoho.com> <86o9t2wjhe.fsf@zoho.com> <6915E9D5-C976-4E7C-ADCD-81EE8968FDF3@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499038098 32100 195.159.176.226 (2 Jul 2017 23:28:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2017 23:28:18 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 03 01:28:13 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dRoHl-00087O-L0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Jul 2017 01:28:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59536 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dRoHr-0002Td-0v for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Jul 2017 19:28:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55361) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dRoHS-0002TX-Kt for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jul 2017 19:27:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dRoHN-0002je-P9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jul 2017 19:27:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=37882 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dRoHN-0002iF-Hs for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jul 2017 19:27:49 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dRoHB-0006Qc-2d for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jul 2017 01:27:37 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 45 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:/9oYiO4Z9+xjWqZa9NwtLNlFXBo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:113646 Archived-At: Jean-Christophe Helary writes: > :) You speak from a minority language point of view. > From where you stand that makes sense. There are not > enough people who speak Swedish to create > a technological market of ideas, hence the *need* to > focus on English and to certainly not waste time on > producing stuff in Swedish. > > It is silly to pretend it is the same for languages > that have populations ranging in the hundreds of > millions. Especially for linguistic communities > where the common economic market offers very strong > incentives to produce in that language. It doesn't matter that more people speak Spanish than Swedish. Because how big the Spanish-speaking world of computers will ever be, it will never be as big as the English ditto. For the technology person, and probably for many other persons as well, not acquiring English will always be a huge injustice and mistake, no matter what nationality this person belongs to. > You also seem to conflate technology (specs etc.) > and it's representation in native languages > (references/manuals). Specs use "code" that mostly > looks like English, but it is not English. > "find-file" of "kill-region" are not English words, > even if they look like English. They are > arbitrary symbols. find, file, kill, and region are English words. Here they are applied to denote aspects of technology. Many times when programming the ultimate designation eludes you. You make it as good as you are able to at that point. Indeed, you can choose a word that doesn't relate to the function at hand, in a language that you just made up, or in paleo-Etruscan if so be it. But doing so will never make your software great and you will never reach your potential as a programmer. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573