From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2017 20:15:27 +0200 Message-ID: <87wp7magxs.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <8737aac0rb.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499278591 23542 195.159.176.226 (5 Jul 2017 18:16:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 18:16:31 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 05 20:16:24 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dSoqV-0005KG-6X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2017 20:16:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47561 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dSoqa-0000dj-HI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2017 14:16:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58576) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dSoq1-0000cM-Rl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2017 14:15:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dSopy-0002SF-GJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2017 14:15:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=52795 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dSopy-0002RO-9H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2017 14:15:42 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dSopo-0003OE-P1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2017 20:15:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:uipaLhMje2wgy/esgrn+K1poT6k= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216191 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> I'm afraid that you guys are missing the point. This has no relation >> with the maintainer of Magit, but with the fact that Magit cannot be >> distributed with Emacs. > > I'm afraid you're missing the point: distributing Magit with Emacs is > not terribly important, compared to fostering good relationships. This is your personal opinion, not the policy exercised by the Emacs project on recent times (see bzr, clang for two glaring examples). Besides, "fostering good relations" on this case is a bit of a red herring, since IIRC the current Magit maintainer is quite collaborative with the Emacs core maintainers and, anyways, enriching Emacs itself is more important than having good relations with a single individual. > BTW, if we want to distribute something like Magit with Emacs, there's > no need to write a replacement: we can simply include Magit itself, > since the license allows us to do so. > The only hurdle is the one *we* (Emacs maintainers) put. Was that hurdle put by the Emacs maintainer or by the GNU governance?