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From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson)
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 28596@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#28596: 26.0.60; [Gnus] Checking mail is no longer reliable and C-g no longer quits
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 12:14:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wp22xvn8.fsf@moondust.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <831skd110u.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 02 Dec 2017 19:40:33 +0200")

Hello Eli,

At 19:40 +0200 on Saturday 2017-12-02, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>
> Any news on this? Is this problem still present in the Emacs
> 26.0.90 pretest?

Yes, the problem is still present with the 26.0.90 pretest. I ran
that for three weeks and the problem happened almost every day.

Then I went back to using Emacs 25 out of frustration.

No, sorry, no news. I wasn't able to get any traction on debugging
it; that would be so much easier if the code were in C! (I am
perennially unsuccessful when I try to get the Elisp debugger to
function the way I think it ought to, probably because I don't
understand the way it is supposed to work.)

However, I had forgotten (or never saw) your suggestions to

  "try setting url-asynchronous to nil when fetching news... [o]r
  maybe even build Emacs with HAVE_GETADDRINFO_A undefined"

and I will try that with 26.0.90 these next days.

Additionally, I am almost convinced that the problem is that Gnus
gets into an ambiguous state where part of it thinks it is
"unplugged" and part of it thinks it's "plugged", and that it
never even tries to retrieve the news in the cases where it seems
to be "broken".

Furthermore, I now believe that the hang that I had been observing
was just Bug 16026 / Bug 16906 and that I failed to recognise it
because I was too confused by the strange behaviour resulting from
this current bug.

N.






  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-04 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-25 15:01 bug#28596: 26.0.60; [Gnus] Checking mail is no longer reliable and C-g no longer quits N. Jackson
2017-09-25 17:03 ` N. Jackson
2017-09-25 17:14 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-09-26 14:13   ` N. Jackson
2017-09-29  9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-29 15:20   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-29 17:27     ` N. Jackson
2017-09-29 20:17       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-12-02 17:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-04 17:14         ` N. Jackson [this message]
2017-12-04 17:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-22 13:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-27 21:00             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]               ` <871sjfdaql.fsf_-_@moondust.localdomain>
2017-12-28 12:07                 ` bug#28596: 26.0.60; Gnus gets into an ambiguous plugged/unplugged state that prevents retrieval of news Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-12-28 16:27                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-28 16:29                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-12-28 17:54                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-28 20:15                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-12-29  0:14                         ` N. Jackson
2018-07-02 17:55                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-03  0:19                             ` N. Jackson
2018-07-04 16:50                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-04 18:03                                 ` N. Jackson
2018-07-04 18:13                                   ` N. Jackson
2018-07-04 18:30                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-04 18:38                                     ` N. Jackson
2018-07-04 18:41                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 15:33                                       ` N. Jackson
2018-07-12 15:45                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-27 15:25                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-07-19 15:44                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-04 18:30                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-11 17:58           ` bug#28596: " N. Jackson

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