From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "whether the global keymap C-x 4 will be replaced by a command," Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 02:58:20 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87wo377wxp.fsf_-_@mail.linkov.net> References: <83ft9woo68.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30656"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 14 02:55:55 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jv9Eh-0007rU-9b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 02:55:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51448 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jv9Eg-0007Eg-Am for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 20:55:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54130) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jv9ED-0006iP-EU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 20:55:25 -0400 Original-Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:47881) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jv9EB-0001Pi-4I; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 20:55:25 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.103.18 Original-Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-103-18.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.103.18]) (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DE6C51BF208; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 00:55:17 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:52:13 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.201; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay8-d.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/07/13 20:55:18 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Spam_score_int: -35 X-Spam_score: -3.6 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252937 Archived-At: > What would it mean to replace that keymap with a command? > > What would that change for users? > Would that make help commands give less useful results for C-x 4 C-f and so on? It's easy to answer your questions by just loading the package other-frame-window.el from GNU ELPA, enabling other-frame-window-mode, and seeing how it works. By default, it uses 'C-x 7' for the other-window prefix to support such keysequences as 'C-x 7 C-f'. Trying to type 'C-h k C-x 7 C-f' ends the keysequence after 'C-h k C-x 7' and displays the help for the other-window command. This means that after binding the current ctl-x-4-map in Emacs core to the other-window command, 'C-h k C-x 4' will display the help for that command, not for the whole sequence 'C-h k C-x 4 C-f'.