From: "Kévin Le Gouguec" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
To: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>
Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>,
Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>,
43268@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#43268: Update Org for Emacs 27.2
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 22:41:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wny723u0.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lfeo3vzg.fsf@bzg.fr> (Bastien's message of "Thu, 26 Nov 2020 17:48:19 +0100")
Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:
> I will probably release 9.4.1 over the week-end to include the latest
> fixes made in the last two months.
>
> Using 9.4.1 in the Emacs pretest release is safe too.
Mmm, I can name a few somewhat-disruptive changes in 9.4 that might
throw people off. For example:
- the new default value for org-startup-folded, as well as some pesky
side-effects with logbook visibility[1],
- RET and C-j honoring electric-indent-mode (thus bringing Org in line
with the rest of Emacs), which has caused some uproar on the mailing
list recently[2].
(And then there's everything under "Incompatible changes" in ORG-NEWS.)
It's not my call of course, but I would argue that if we want 27.2 to be
a no-surprise, bugfix-only release, 9.3.8 would be a safer option.
[1] https://orgmode.org/list/875z83hwuc.fsf@gmail.com/
tl;dr:
$ wget https://orgmode.org/list/87eepuz0bj.fsf@gmail.com/2-logbooks.org
$ emacs -Q 2-logbooks.org
C-s bug
- with Org up to 9.3.8, logbooks remain closed;
- with Org 9.4, logbooks are opened during the search; this adds a
lot of clutter and robs the user of a lot of context;
(can reproduce on maint, 2d23d55ac)
- this can also be reproduced with Org master, 9a154910e, although I
could have sworn that Ihor (CC'ed) had committed something to
address this.
[2] https://orgmode.org/list/2020-11-13T18-23-43@devnull.Karl-Voit.at/t/
tl;dr:
Lots of Org users were using RET with electric-indent-mode on,
unaware that their prose was one TAB away from being indented. 9.4
made RET honor electric-indent-mode and indents, and much grief
ensued.
My (maybe biased) takeway is that the default value of
org-adapt-indentation should be changed, as evidenced by the
non-indented reference examples shown on orgmode.org, and the
.dir-locals.el setting at the root of Org's repo.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-26 21:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-08 5:06 bug#43268: Update Org for Emacs 27.2 Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-09-08 14:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-08 14:46 ` Michael Albinus
2020-09-08 14:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-13 21:34 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-12-14 7:50 ` Michael Albinus
2020-12-14 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-14 15:55 ` Michael Albinus
2020-12-14 16:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-14 15:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-14 15:56 ` Michael Albinus
2020-12-14 18:44 ` Michael Albinus
2020-12-14 15:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-08 22:01 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-11-23 20:09 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-26 16:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-26 16:48 ` Bastien
2020-11-26 19:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-26 22:49 ` Bastien
2020-12-02 15:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-08 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-08 15:35 ` Bastien
2020-12-08 17:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-13 21:12 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-11-26 21:41 ` Kévin Le Gouguec [this message]
2020-11-26 22:49 ` Bastien
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