From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Organizing the NEWS file a bit better Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2021 21:04:39 +0200 Message-ID: <87wnnwp3g8.fsf@gnus.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38272"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Emacs developers To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 04 21:05:56 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mMazE-0009mY-B8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 21:05:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48456 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMazC-0005Wc-UV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 15:05:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43532) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMayA-0004ou-MF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 15:04:50 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:33772) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMay5-00013D-4W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 15:04:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Z7iJJIEcJaSD2+iV0ejzOBDGmgeHdXIuaKPF//brHY4=; b=acFPgVDSt18zq7w9/T0lgO2re2 bGndU1aJWc5ismWtln0pW18BD9yrTn1sdyK3OwYHNNEHzMYkIXmHGf3UuMUIVqbxVx3/eN4OVOS9Q 6aduNxFSt4tErGYZkIAfTocFjzoCyxSbR3mPIDpv8Z0Oo1fFO17yXfSyJA6CNyDMaAuI=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mMay0-0005XA-5Q; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 21:04:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sat, 4 Sep 2021 20:53:22 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -23 X-Spam_score: -2.4 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273951 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > I'm looking at re-organizing NEWS a bit, and I'm not sure how we prefer it. > > In general, I guess I also wonder if anyone will protest if I take it > upon myself to move things around to more sensible places. Please go ahead. When adding NEWS-worthy things, they generally land somewhere in the general section where they should be, not organised further than that. (I try to see if there's something already in NEWS that's about the same package, and then create a sub-section for that... but not methodically.) > Here are some concrete questions: > > - Under "Changes in Specialized Modes and Packages" things seem thrown > in more or less at random. Do we prefer to order it according to > perceived order of importance? Would it make sense to organize it > alphabetically? I have no opinion about that. > - Does "Tab Bars" belong under "Changes in Emacs" rather than > "Specialized Modes"? It's more like a core feature to my mind, even > if not everyone uses it. (I've moved "Windows" and "Frames" there > already.) Yes, sounds like a "Changes in Emacs" thing, I think. > - Under "Incompatible Editing Changes" we have several items relating > to specialized modes (f90-mode, nroff-mode, vc, project). Do these > entries belong under "Specialized Modes and Packages"? Uhm... I think it makes sense to have the incompatible stuff in one section? It makes it easy for people who only want to know what might have broken in their code. > - Could we just put new headers for macOS and MS-Windows under "Emacs > 28.1 on Non-Free Operating Systems"? Entries now start with "On > macOS ..." or "On MS-Windows ...", which we could avoid. Sounds good. > - Under "Editing Changes" we have many things that doesn't seem like > they belong there. Should they be moved? See the list below where > I've marked things that we might want to move with "x". Hm... where would you move them to? "Changes in Emacs"? I think most of the "x" things might live more comfortably there, perhaps? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no