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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 50895@debbugs.gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru
Subject: bug#50895: 28.0.50; show-paren-mode is distracting in some modes
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 20:31:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wnmz6xnt.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83r1d7grwx.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 29 Sep 2021 21:25:50 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> I'm not sure anybody even thought about the implications this would have
>> for buffers that are used for display -- I certainly didn't.
>
> But it takes time to collect the implications and to see whether they
> are real problems or just personal preferences of the "it annoys me"
> kind.  Once again, I'm using this as a global setting for eons, and
> didn't see any implications that bothered me.  So the implications we
> hear now are not necessarily clear-cut and objective.

Sure, I'm not arguing for changing anything this second.  I opened this
bug report to see if anybody had any input into what options we had if
we wanted to tweak the behaviour, and Jim Porter's suggestion seems
promising to me.

It seems like if we implement something like that, then people who have
(show-paren-mode 1) in their .emacs files already won't be affected at
all, and people who don't have it will have it switched on in
editing-related modes, which is what was discussed on emacs-devel (and
was (I think) the only thing that was discussed there).

> It is this third category that is the main audience of such changes.
> Let's not decide for them what are the implications, let them try the
> new default and tell us about the implications they saw, from their
> POV.

That's what's happening -- both Juri and I saw the changes in a help
buffer and didn't like it, so we piped up.

The system is working as intended.  :-)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-29 18:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-29 17:25 bug#50895: 28.0.50; show-paren-mode is distracting in some modes Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-29 17:54 ` bug#50895: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-29 17:59 ` Jim Porter
2021-09-29 18:01   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-29 20:02     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-30  6:45       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-30 11:19         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-30 13:39           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-30 17:00             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-01  7:30               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-30  9:02       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-30  9:26         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-30 10:02           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-30 17:03         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-29 18:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-29 18:03   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-29 18:11     ` bug#50895: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-29 18:25     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-29 18:31       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2021-09-29 18:40         ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-09-29 17:10 bug#50894: Disable show-paren-mode in special modes Juri Linkov
2022-09-02 12:23 ` bug#50895: 28.0.50; show-paren-mode is distracting in some modes Lars Ingebrigtsen

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