From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Entering emojis Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2021 15:07:49 +0200 Message-ID: <87wnlymx96.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87cznths5j.fsf@gnus.org> <83zgqxymd3.fsf@gnu.org> <878rygj4gt.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnm0zz0q.fsf@gnu.org> <874k94j3rn.fsf@gnus.org> <83v91kzydh.fsf@gnu.org> <87tuh4holf.fsf@gnus.org> <822aec9d01909cecfc6c@heytings.org> <87a6iwhltf.fsf@gnus.org> <83tuh4zfg5.fsf@gnu.org> <87y26gfobr.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuh4f1ie.fsf@gnus.org> <83tuh2wuwa.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmrqod9f.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2889"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, gregory@heytings.org, Stefan Kangas To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 27 15:28:07 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mfiyM-0000VO-Vf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2021 15:28:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41500 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mfiyL-0004aS-Gj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2021 09:28:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58000) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mfiez-0008Og-Om for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2021 09:08:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-x433.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::433]:42648) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mfien-0004P5-BN; Wed, 27 Oct 2021 09:08:05 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x433.google.com with SMTP id v17so4039930wrv.9; Wed, 27 Oct 2021 06:07:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uCMQK4IRl1RLCARZH7sPrlpAPdKSs6jEe9HKGk83m6A=; b=PUju30KwKyaMfqlTFg/TcRrbDGPpoDgk8mu7RZJiXLxhLjmkOIH7SgsDwE42wWpvXl yyzugrphZx+mNri5BhsTRhFC1Jesc760QetEiDipZubtzaPvIJa08vCUJgrloU8uG5We tFUVZEMVqNC1n/nTUcjtKBqRIIalNAAyKxgr9EQXHDNvBkP3i4n+PfOweugn37PMFvtD az6RYn7CDWmAl5sSxceoFW/zv/xwIj88HXafGnaFuVhR87igA7877yhkU9KKAazU4sV6 FCxABUfL3LRTih5rb/kpmGcFsECWmynVvqrFY6WeN7y2J0bS95qqXT057JPcS5BOUypx BiXQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uCMQK4IRl1RLCARZH7sPrlpAPdKSs6jEe9HKGk83m6A=; b=Y38xmf8vOFjl9AFtVy3SLACN4n6PYjj2z1lxqlNb2GNld6f6M7G0t+cOj1ztRJIRir t20e6Hz1VKf/i7zEM09Z7jBP/FzobEcjw91mbVHjRrWxuvqFykJLLA+OL9pHFBmAMBHU PYmJppsHbFjTB3J7dakj7NGAR8VupCemDkpjXjwUqQeMiiqImJbdOSRYoGqPnTwNMti5 NMF+YJwBmrf1QkJrdq3Tt90dAITeHvZ0cV9mPB5cZ+iRsXM/w8CSBpZirqDbfmmsHb0l VQG3iFIfNL5T6HDsPNlBpVDB2qC9cSPJ+tH6M33rl9anxTiYaeIJXI19pwJUpXSvwIbs wKIQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531WCk/Dy5KFLB5FM4aLFf1IMED4KRQ9UOE/w4LY6tu+d87jAfAF zKYjJJ0eWOxaGNBPXFouCh/ebC/7NUo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwlFyUlGV/rBGQboXf3B8efHOyEtM8F5ck/5NUV1ba5PlxwdYW/Cpq9HfHWWna/Bwn6K/L0OQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:1841:: with SMTP id c1mr40956285wri.204.1635340070769; Wed, 27 Oct 2021 06:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from rltb ([82.66.8.55]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h8sm22506762wrm.27.2021.10.27.06.07.50 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 27 Oct 2021 06:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: <87pmrqod9f.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Wed, 27 Oct 2021 14:36:44 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::433; envelope-from=rpluim@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x433.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277954 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 14:36:44 +0200, Robert Pluim s= aid: >>>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 14:48:37 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: >>> Why can't we just do that automatically? Eli> I don't know why the macOS font backend doesn't find this font in = your Eli> case, it's something that should be investigated. Robert> I have a vague memory that there=CA=BCs code in the macOS font = backend that Robert> will only allow color fonts if explicitly requested, and there = being a Robert> good reason for it. I=CA=BCll trawl through my archives. Yes, src/macfont.m:2419 /* Don't use a color bitmap font unless its family is explicitly specified. */ if ((sym_traits & kCTFontTraitColorGlyphs) && NILP (family)) continue; which I asked Yamamoto-san about last year, and the response was: which does a good job of explaining *what* was done for the Mac port (which is a separate port) but not why. Anyway, if I delete the above, Apple Color Emoji is used for emoji. I=CA=BCd push it to emacs-28, but I have no idea of the repercussions. Robert --=20