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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282002 Archived-At: tomas@tuxteam.de writes: > This "we decide exclusively on technical grounds" is usually a higly > political decision hidden behind a tree. My hunch is that this is one of > those cases. No, it is not. I would not agree to a change from (for example) "frame" to "window" and from "window" to "pane" for the exact same reason.