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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298547 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 11:02:00 -0400, Stefan Monnier said: Stefan> Po Lu [2022-10-26 22:11:38] wrote: >> On October 26, 2022 8:18:20 PM GMT+08:00, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> How about making zlib a required library for Emacs? >> This would be a little drastic, Stefan> zlib is ON by default, is required internally by gnutls which i= s also ON Stefan> by default, and is a requirement for the native compiler as wel= l (which Stefan> is not ON by default), so it's not *that* drastic. And let=CA=BCs not forget that the default value of `package-archives' contains https URLs, so anyone building Emacs without GnuTLS is already causing themselves problems with package downloads. >> but what about not supporting package installation from ELPA if zlib >> isn't installed? Stefan> Maybe if we relax this to "either compiled with zlib or can fin= d `gzip` Stefan> in `exec-path`", it might be tolerable. The latter would imply http downloads only for packages, which is not something we should promote. Robert --=20