From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Choice of bug tracker Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2023 15:41:38 +0200 Message-ID: <87wmxaggdp.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87il9kksqz.fsf@dfreeman.email> <835y51kslv.fsf@gnu.org> <7a82c524-1aa1-e755-e377-673ebb107a44@gutov.dev> <83r0nok8s4.fsf@gnu.org> <83ledwk4xi.fsf@gnu.org> <76ecf629-a41a-f6e4-f661-2ef926326d6c@gutov.dev> <83zg2cias7.fsf@gnu.org> <83pm37ie54.fsf@gnu.org> <831qfmhyx3.fsf@gnu.org> <245de638-e6b2-dd8e-ee61-695c4c3da0c7@gutov.dev> <83h6oghixu.fsf@gnu.org> <6ae0b4b0-b2ef-d8de-caed-d647979c2f37@gutov.dev> <83ttsfel30.fsf@gnu.org> <8f500cee-f136-fdc6-aaa5-960bbeceeaae@gutov.dev> <87zg26gy9i.fsf@gmail.com> <87bkemrycb.fsf@localhost> <87wmxaay1n.fsf@gmx.de> <874jkejamx.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8527"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Visuwesh , Dmitry Gutov , Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Kangas , philipk@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 01 15:42:33 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qc4Pw-0001yz-3L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 15:42:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qc4PG-0003tF-Ad; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 09:41:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qc4PE-0003t5-BQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 09:41:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qc4PA-0001FA-Vv; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 09:41:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1693575699; x=1694180499; i=michael.albinus@gmx.de; bh=oexjCgXWsECxF8PnkM1sr2h5LNqD5Dvygvv0X4/8ToE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=BSXZ3alSdGB8mUWQFeXw6L6AoctBWpmfim4jSKmKXyn9exHqYZAasrMYFgvoh6batJUGiZx Y4bV15Sv/cq3veDkrTL/z5r3gZYA3PONLs6i2KsPjr+r/2GGuLf/3bah+qW/6eK1e43dUm55B wrLdJVHR5O29m6b7yz7M3ezoQdiimVU2k+8/cMMA+uRMyuuECEmyDTOlODgSR86GlihslO+BR glHg1K6TviOX64/U79QrlWXZEegUy9LSED6UA8O4+Jy8KUvK1ETpgNosq4tZJrR7iR4e5QYvJ nqPSyGXD7UiXVpOu13Pb9V8Gujk7pJEEizg4fhqNb8h44TaKSdxw== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Original-Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([185.89.39.16]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MBDjA-1qX50H0DCI-00CiXR; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 15:41:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <874jkejamx.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Fri, 01 Sep 2023 13:17:26 +0000") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:5FbpGUV/bdwmOOREVWhb/3KbvwzfQ4GwbchudpUM6cPvbTNk3jF GEHH6BkbNBB5VMc2j9jv+FfFqnAqbF1P8VCK6utybZjlWWQ0Ax/xXrzWcteUa0WU4/2iKuB hmgBR6SQfE3T4UF2+HY4ijzEpfI+WXDFiBqpOqh/Fd5io3K8OK/ZC0T0EdmwG/91OC3bKls OAuOwXEnsUByfrA2HbJsw== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:U/x+eeM6VlQ=;AB2p8VGzo3qUCutBBbPJr63QpZr 8BgPfocXsnW4I5Wh8tNvz1dRB/zySps+50Ym2WQOG5nhqceH+79R6nqaVVRnKFVsnKRkRi5bQ mR/QncY/VBnzY188A4HB+vta4oD7U8N5OTPoooatVQzBXY6noYOKh/UfdYCN+zcGyLA5ukvn+ SG2r5BLTp/sexuZlghmMvI0rD7LQvrj8obmswI7MqL748ivB7kDSR+BR4ZZfgIzyOjPgEgwHm ofzEh60zYpIQgvz8cZobnciFm7h4f/qyIayvuAiJgqJ8XOnatEfEzXesDCS25zmlerLNWhvUy mk9MneGzFJ4lFl8gs+0maxXFl0NDnjTaRNxIqsZGPkGk0Fa8klDw+nTsSfsFjvI7Il6nlYe1o ppEHNHiK+IPlRcdFW8H8HkpPWenN69qiPd583J1OOJIcIK2+aIShA6SxkOFLYiOhJ91EaOzeo EXSbz9wsZDSpTBJHG3k5sykkBusmvTc6O+LRJvpGBokkaSwtXlgri9zW9DTvO0bhTJWpJ4kJf Ai2KmoSv4qKH9IcjMdaK6F6j1y+2tTJrXSCCus0Jqk4pGvs53PBHBf2Jwcy3UykPQeU162Pol Ca2bRDsdcJobgsk/fLuw/VB93JFLqvSWvHhtawWn16YxrYibXm7tfYicDKWmODF1qRezTElsn G2yrCILDBt4FZE7y6Y+5rOkZngpAGUGEU/K0KawggUGaLgjK7r3jA9N4qSYHPJjc5jYsku6ww DfkeBqugaJKoqwjfLUmwUxiD0oH4tZeKRwO5GwGQjbG9qSt96YGvNcSWejziveYtey47DeW0 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.18; envelope-from=michael.albinus@gmx.de; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309785 Archived-At: Ihor Radchenko writes: Hi Ihor, >>> Agree. Isn't is possible to create an automatic bouncer for >>> non-subscribed non-whitelisted users to notify them about moderation? >> >> That's not done because it would give the spammers the feedback that the >> used mail address is valid. With the likelihood to get more spam. > > Is it something that was tried and then had to be removed? Don't know, I'm not a debbugs moderator from the beginning. > I do agree that the amount of spam will likely increase, but I am not > sure if it will be unbearable. So, insight from moderators would be > useful. Given, that I'm almost the only moderator these days, I wouldn't like to check out. Remember, it isn't only Emacs bugs which go through. If there would be more debbugs ML moderators, it might be worth to try. My occasional requests to volunteer die away unheard. No surprise, given the bad reputation people rank debbugs here. Best regards, Michael.