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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Jack Kamm <jackkamm@gmail.com>
Cc: Liu Hui <liuhui1610@gmail.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Set Python shell in Org edit buffer
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2024 13:45:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wmsn6ghw.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ttnyz0jv.fsf@gmail.com>

Jack Kamm <jackkamm@gmail.com> writes:

>> Because I am still thinking about the idea with global customization and
>> `org-babel-<lang>-associate-session'.
>
> It's great that you're thinking about this -- it would be nice to have
> better consistency between ob-R, ob-python, etc, and to have better
> configurability on this. In particular, ob-R's behavior to automatically
> start a session is annoying for me, especially when editing on my HPC's
> login node which forbids starting R, python, etc outside of slurm.
>
> However, the most recent version of Liu's patch is very small, and the
> changes should be easy to modify in future, whatever your conclusion on
> `org-babel-<lang>-associate-session'. So I would suggest not to let it
> be blocked by this for too long.

I just do not want to do double work.

I now reverted the obsoletion of org-babel-<lang>-associate-session.
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=99c9cae25
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=b4687fcd6

I also fixed the problem where org-babel-<lang>-associate-session was
never actually executed due to `org-src--babel-info' being set after
`org-src-mode-hook'.

Now, the question is what to do with the existing implementation of
`org-src-associate-babel-session'. It only runs
org-babel-<lang>-associate-session when

(and session (not (string= session "none"))
	 (org-babel-comint-buffer-livep session)
	 (let ((f (intern (format "org-babel-%s-associate-session"
                                  (nth 0 info)))))
           (and (fboundp f) (funcall f session))))

The questionable check here is (org-babel-comint-buffer-livep session) -
it only triggers when session is already initiated, while ob-python and
some other backends do not necessarily need to start a new session to
"associate" it with Org Src buffer.

I am tentatively inclined to change this check to

(or (org-babel-comint-buffer-livep session)
    (eq org-src-auto-initiate-session t)
    (alist-get (nth 0 info) org-src-auto-initiate-session)
    (alist-get 'default org-src-auto-initiate-session))

With `org-src-auto-initiate-session' being a customization that controls
whether to associate session for a given babel backend.

We may set the default value to something like

((default . t) ("R" . nil))

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-05 13:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-05 10:18 [PATCH] Set Python shell in Org edit buffer Liu Hui
2023-12-05 11:51 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-06  4:41   ` Liu Hui
2023-12-06 13:23     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-07  4:45       ` Liu Hui
2023-12-07 10:36         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-07 14:17           ` Liu Hui
2023-12-07 15:19             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-08 10:19               ` Liu Hui
2023-12-08 13:09                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-09  2:33                   ` Liu Hui
2023-12-09 10:32                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-09 13:36                       ` Liu Hui
2023-12-27  6:04                         ` Jack Kamm
2023-12-28 11:48                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-31 18:31                             ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-05 13:45                               ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2024-01-05 23:29                                 ` Christopher M. Miles
2024-01-12 11:58                                   ` [ob-clojure] Clojure sessions in Org Src buffers (was: [PATCH] Set Python shell in Org edit buffer) Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-07  6:07                                 ` [PATCH] Set Python shell in Org edit buffer Jack Kamm
2024-01-07 12:54                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-07 19:06                                     ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-07 23:14                                       ` William Denton
2024-01-08 12:26                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-09  4:09                                         ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-09  4:25                                           ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-09 18:16                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10  6:21                                             ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-10 12:18                                               ` [FR] Add buffer-local setting to request specific ESS process/session name (was: [PATCH] Set Python shell in Org edit buffer) Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10 19:14                                                 ` Sparapani, Rodney
2024-01-10 19:15                                                   ` Sparapani, Rodney
2024-01-10 19:31                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10 19:39                                                       ` Sparapani, Rodney
2024-01-10 20:15                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10 21:44                                                           ` [External] " Richard M. Heiberger
2024-01-10 21:53                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-21 11:48                                                           ` [PATCH] " Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-21 18:21                                                             ` Sparapani, Rodney
2024-01-22 12:13                                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-22 13:46                                                                 ` Martin Maechler
2024-01-25 13:09                                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-25 15:23                                                                     ` Sparapani, Rodney
2024-01-25 15:33                                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-25 15:42                                                                         ` Sparapani, Rodney
2024-01-25 22:47                                                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10 12:19                                               ` [PATCH] Set Python shell in Org edit buffer Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-14 17:23                                                 ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-16 13:49                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-16 16:05                                                     ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-28 19:12                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-29  4:23                                                         ` Jack Kamm
2023-12-27  6:07                       ` Jack Kamm
2023-12-28 11:51                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-29 16:04                           ` Jack Kamm
2023-12-31 13:05                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-31 18:14                               ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-05 14:00                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-29 22:20                 ` Jack Kamm
2023-12-30  7:08                   ` Liu Hui
2024-01-28 20:35         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-29  4:21           ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-29 13:31             ` Ihor Radchenko

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