From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Installing cond* in core Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2024 10:43:59 +0800 Message-ID: <87wmrui3dc.fsf@yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21961"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Alan Mackenzie , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 28 03:45:05 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rTvAO-0005XY-IR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 03:45:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rTv9d-0005lQ-JI; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 21:44:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rTv9b-0005lA-HH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 21:44:15 -0500 Original-Received: from sonic303-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.188.146]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rTv9Z-00017S-Mk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 21:44:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1706409851; bh=ewFstSTEe0LrgtHg6BNlJwRhxtaDJf6ywCtWfZzLIxE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=P19MjY4xwTCqjD+RSfyOcdfJ2AkUwHjWA4Pyti3jJ4oq/1TvFon6C01ur2mJCrAKt1ZnBlTX/INeOvsl3sEt4fS8PzEltOru4xFa2ZTQEod3gPWDQ1bTCjlnkq5e0A0ex6HTyLVq2C/LxGo7ZvOl2D9YiXaEVdBaqDDhwsACjiGG74oulzMqfxoRHRM87U21HhBU4iQg6YkA1yeNlkA4ipZnmrI8zpIzAkZCUIgqogA57D+3MdEFmcHxrjjCpIGVAPnNLfzRNh7LTLkCJU2FGBzjPye2aC+q5lept6Cm4OT9jELaP8nAnsS6NKYevGwVkQnUavo0WSRqjQz2PRBVtw== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1706409851; bh=PoGEnMdFDD0BdJtNOu5237dzi291pzNcLKkHBXjDU+9=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=Kb5nP7Bxt9UO311tn6J3tEENvqws0pRQP+PxNjvLT1RtMlcOlUsIWRR7Ur3aGO05mVSYcVI8XJy6shyVWj7u4aqqFTTZPXykgKcPOuyabbwPYTtZiEFJasQIxnxt/gef5SefZ/1x+KKBPvYLlJf7dCaL02Z5sDS5OXttsxWUIfh4z6jAPownrEpTuUOWkTZK6lvzo/CN7iDMO8KDgX79XOvSxvrj48HB6CHcYm4Qea4SGQDA6M+c021Otu4pLSpPAuzGo1V4lYrwX8Ie17mRwlQZ1PGPHKY4agkORmvAFXKPKVdCWyvknnx/kh3K8aN109CuedKdtBFE70WdTQlPPg== X-YMail-OSG: 6krPSSEVM1kXPwRRVnJLgaDS4dnQp2Oe2jsG..h8pD0pAVVJTGWOz_wAY6BI_2e 1Nl2x6FM5MXD.ywXPUIXpbMLS4gETj.CoEz0CyEI7wFjrVmmzJ75V10DR7IymLbTC4bN5NYsZpVY 61C5bDczSzqGv6IdncwuevcFEqtsX2n7P.wA8B_mZS4GbJEAvTfAZj8bSLEyhNl4tKnP1K_WfuKQ ckJ1UXJiLfxoUgHtRNJIs5fwOunK9PYv7kQsMEpAifI1XOLbz4S8g0Ulg5zg6cXtIYceGR4JLfud KfFmYUqTSjOQ4SgESILu1QYn2NDNj19oncD.uCBzc2fPjpsTLhQQ8ISpy6USZ4UbzQ5HxB.1M_9Z O_.HL7ZFVmLGBT15T2MV8rBpjYTBonhPYfpoCDV7BwNYTiDosZe91GttChr_HfNZF2i4aHAuhNUe dO0oF.yM2nXQvXLiNkzy5uqacrCCVCRuoe2SkVq.yrGlWcbt3bAsXlabrL2bOATU02r6Y0LCH.92 dX6Wdynscc31D1NaqY_jAuY1grU3Gj7RALdtnZq8fjDkZTiDMejb4tXcFfhOYCjWxE.rJGKvX1Qi KaUwL_HHgx0aFfgWvUjy9RwiWBB2rtGE0ZALe1hNbsSQbkFovLDPx.5Jh3iSmAsqGCYM3.bcvB5b a7ZroFXNQzaCmNj.suu8Sb_h8ENQym89ElhmQeCpZCw3CiKPto0_5723cg0L1jq7Uu7WnwyoAua7 1TFdB8geHeKkJ5MWNE7M5z5n5Ee.ZCOZYbg0sDdkP2q07f7AXOI5Ufuw1RXSqpvpsxEF3KYBa9bY p3SgkTnUhQXMx8tor4yE_BBmQbelim8q90GeMaCmhw X-Sonic-MF: X-Sonic-ID: 7c82c294-843c-43e8-a60c-9f9bf0faa895 Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic303.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 02:44:11 +0000 Original-Received: by hermes--production-sg3-6dc75bc8fb-khq9b (Yahoo Inc. Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 2ac77faf52f623f1ea0d8d97c10938f2; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 02:44:05 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sat, 27 Jan 2024 16:26:17 -0800") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22046 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.188.146; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic303-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:315513 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > I see cond* as an alternative to pcase for those that prefer it. > This is one consequence of deciding not to get rid of pcase. [...] > We didn't discuss that. It sounds like a separate change from adding > cond* to core, and I'm not sure it makes sense to commit to it off-hand, > without first understanding the details. > > In general, there is no point to loading something early unless it is > used early. Do you have something more specific in mind? With consideration to its role as an alternative to pcase, it's reasonable to request that it not be placed at a disadvantage by not being available at the same stage of the bootstrap process as pcase.