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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321232 Archived-At: [=E0=AE=9A=E0=AF=86=E0=AE=B5=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=B5=E0=AE=BE=E0=AE=AF=E0=AF=8D = =E0=AE=9C=E0=AF=82=E0=AE=B2=E0=AF=88 02, 2024] Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 02/07/2024 09:50, Juri Linkov wrote: >> I can't believe someone might want to use such long key sequences >> for one of the most frequent actions. It's even longer than >> 'C-x o' it's supposed to improve. I think there are no better keys >> for switching windows than arrows with a modifier. > > I'm going to ask a dangerous question: do people use the existing > bindings for "C-x " and "C-x "? Yes, daily. It is very handy with repeat-mode to quickly switch buffers back-and-forth. [ I like that they use arrow keys since I usually need to navigate to another location in the buffer upon switching. ]