From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Ryde Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: info-lookup delay on missing file Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:48:00 +1000 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87vfsg2i8v.fsf@zip.com.au> References: <874r02myov.fsf@zip.com.au> <4331-Thu28Aug2003091313+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1062197727 1268 80.91.224.253 (29 Aug 2003 22:55:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 22:55:27 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 30 00:55:25 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19ss9N-0000wr-00 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 00:55:25 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19ssGv-0005Bs-00 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 01:03:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 19ss8U-0007P4-Dt for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 18:54:30 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 19ss8E-0007JX-TC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 18:54:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 19ss3x-0005TZ-GO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 18:49:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [61.8.0.36] (helo=snoopy.pacific.net.au) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 19ss2T-00053M-MD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 18:48:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mongrel.pacific.net.au (mongrel.pacific.net.au [61.8.0.107]) by snoopy.pacific.net.au (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.4) with ESMTP id h7TMmFBt003270 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:48:15 +1000 Original-Received: from localhost (ppp110.dyn228.pacific.net.au [203.143.228.110]) by mongrel.pacific.net.au (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.4) with ESMTP id h7TMlIBC023693 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:47:19 +1000 Original-Received: from gg by localhost with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19ss2D-0000mH-00; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:48:01 +1000 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <4331-Thu28Aug2003091313+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:13:14 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090019 (Oort Gnus v0.19) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:16199 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:16199 "Eli Zaretskii" writes: > > What happens if _none_ of the files in info-lookup-alist exist? Does > the user get any messages with your change, or will Emacs simply do > nothing visible (quietly)? You get "Not documented as a symbol" on any lookup. This is unchanged actually, since if there's no manuals at all available then nothing goes into the cache. The bad case is when there's a missing manual in the middle of the list, every lookup into a manual past that gets the message and delay. > Btw, one alternative is to be less talkative, but not to omit the > information altogether, either: put the message into *Messages*, but > don't display it and don't sit-for. The sit-for is the annoying bit. I don't know that a message every time adds much, but it doesn't hurt.