From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Post-22.1 development? Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 07:53:31 +0900 Message-ID: <87vedzwf4k.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <878xb05ras.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <864plnorgn.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <85ps4ap0kh.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <18024.30252.846428.246125@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181256824 31266 80.91.229.12 (7 Jun 2007 22:53:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 22:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Nick Roberts , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Sean O'Rourke" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 08 00:53:42 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HwQrO-0000x3-1u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2007 00:53:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HwQrN-0008PJ-Ks for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:53:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HwQrI-0008Kr-Lh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:53:36 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HwQrH-0008J7-5L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:53:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HwQrG-0008Ix-Ss for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:53:34 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp02.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.72]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HwQrF-00031N-Dn; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:53:33 -0400 Original-Received: from 203-216-102-031.dsl.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.102.31] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp02.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1HwQrC-0002mM-Ia; Fri, 08 Jun 2007 07:53:30 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 03A302F41; Fri, 8 Jun 2007 07:53:31 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Sean O'Rourke's message of "Thu\, 07 Jun 2007 15\:17\:33 -0700") Original-Lines: 26 X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72447 Archived-At: "Sean O'Rourke" writes: > I just thought that there are probably quite a few of us > out here who prefer doing things the "old way," that this very > preference is part of what keeps us using Emacs rather than > Eclipse or something, and that it's important to remind everyone > that we exist. Indeed, though I think there's not much chance of old-timers' interests being ignored on _this_ list... :-) BTW, since you mentioned Eclipse, I should note that Eclipse has a fairly decent "Emacs keybindings" mode: Though it's only a shallow emulation layer, it seems a lot more complete than is typical for such add-on keybinding sets (Emacs' somewhat complex and multi-level bindings seem beyond the capability of many programs). This mode was a godsend when I recently had to do a lot of hacking in Eclipse! Eclipse makes Emacs look positively light-weight and svelte though... :-} -Miles -- What the fuck do white people have to be blue about!? Banana Republic ran out of Khakis? The Espresso Machine is jammed? Hootie and The Blowfish are breaking up??! Shit, white people oughtta understand, their job is to GIVE people the blues, not to get them! -- George Carlin