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From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Crashes with non-default language environments
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:27:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ve4v9nk0.fsf@jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvk5lb4mmw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:06:01 -0500")

>>>>> Of course, string-AS-unibyte is the worst of all three.  But nobody
>>>>> suggested to use that one.  I just suggested to replace
>>>>> string-MAKE-uniybte by string-TO-unibyte.
>>>
>>>> Where's this string-to-unibyte function?  My emacs doesn't have it...
>>>
>>> Oh, that's right, we still don't have it.  We only have the 3 variants
>>> on the uni->multi, but not on the multi->uni.
>>> I guess now is a good time to introduce it.

Ah, sorry, since I've found no such function I assumed a typo.

I think adding a new function string-to-unibyte to complement
string-to-multibyte and other 2 multi->uni functions would be a good
thing for the short term even though all these names are confusing.

>> What's really wanted here, is something like
>> vector-to-raw-string-dont-you-dare-do-any-encoding, right?
>> [As the bytecode engine wants raw bytes with the same numbers, which
>> just happened to be inside a string]
>
> The problem is that "no encoding" means different things to
> different people.  At some point I proposed to just throw out all those
> functions, and force people to use encode/decode-coding-string instead,
> which forces them to think a bit about what they're doing.

Since all those uni->multi/multi->uni functions have non-descriptive
names, using encode/decode-coding-string with explicit coding will
help writing more clean and less error-prone code.  So I'd give a vote
for it.

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-02-11 21:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-07 19:54 Crashes with non-default language environments Juri Linkov
2008-02-09 22:17 ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-10  2:09   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-10 22:48     ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-11  1:39       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-11  1:56         ` Miles Bader
2008-02-11  3:02           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-11  4:11             ` Miles Bader
2008-02-11 14:06               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-11 15:16                 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-11 16:51                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-11 21:27                 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2008-02-12 11:41             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-02-12 16:29               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-25  2:58                 ` bug#481: " Kenichi Handa
2008-06-25  3:49                   ` bug#482: " Stefan Monnier
2008-07-02 10:44                     ` bug#517: " Kenichi Handa
2008-07-03 22:23                       ` bug#529: " Stefan Monnier
2008-07-04  2:27                         ` bug#531: " Kenichi Handa
2008-02-12 11:23       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-02-12 19:29         ` Juri Linkov

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