vc-annotate upper case key bindings are annoying

vc-annotate upper case key bindings are annoying

[Dan Nicolaescu]

Am I the only one that thinks that vc-annotate's upper case commands are
annoying? 
To do a diff from vc-log you use 'd', from vc-annotate you do 'D' 

Is using upper case letters because of using view-mode? (if Miles'
replacement view-mode get's installed, vc-annotate should use it in an
instant).
Of vc-diff, vc-log and vc-annotate only vc-annotate uses upper case key
bindings...

Thoughts?

Re: vc-annotate upper case key bindings are annoying

[Johan Bockgård]

Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu> writes:

> Am I the only one that thinks that vc-annotate's upper case commands are
> annoying?
> To do a diff from vc-log you use 'd', from vc-annotate you do 'D'
>
> Is using upper case letters because of using view-mode?

Yes.  See

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-01/msg00279.html

-- 
Johan Bockgård

Re: vc-annotate upper case key bindings are annoying

[Dan Nicolaescu]

bojohan+news@dd.chalmers.se (Johan Bockgård) writes:

  > Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu> writes:
  > 
  > > Am I the only one that thinks that vc-annotate's upper case commands are
  > > annoying?
  > > To do a diff from vc-log you use 'd', from vc-annotate you do 'D'
  > >
  > > Is using upper case letters because of using view-mode?
  > 
  > Yes.  See
  > 
  > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-01/msg00279.html

Thanks.

Now looking a bit in more details: 
l, j and v are not used by view-mode so they could be easily used for 
vc-annotate-revision-at-line, vc-annotate-show-log-revision-at-line and
vc-annotate-toggle-annotation-visibility, respectively.

d would be nice to use for vc-annotate-show-diff-revision-at-line, but
view-mode uses it.
What is the most elegant way to make the 'd' binding work despite
view-mode?
(IMO we should just not use view-mode in this case, does it provide any
interesting advantage?)

Thoughts?

Re: vc-annotate upper case key bindings are annoying

[Miles Bader]

Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu> writes:
> What is the most elegant way to make the 'd' binding work despite
> view-mode?  (IMO we should just not use view-mode in this case, does
> it provide any interesting advantage?)

view-mode has lots of "features", which eat up bindings, and I suspect
almost nobody ever uses...

-Miles

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the cow, and the cook.

Re: vc-annotate upper case key bindings are annoying

[Dan Nicolaescu]

Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:

  > Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu> writes:
  > > What is the most elegant way to make the 'd' binding work despite
  > > view-mode?  (IMO we should just not use view-mode in this case, does
  > > it provide any interesting advantage?)
  > 
  > view-mode has lots of "features", which eat up bindings, and I suspect
  > almost nobody ever uses...

If the view-mode replacement that you posted recently is added, I'd be
happy to make vc-annotate use it.
Meanwhile, is there any problem with not using view-mode at all?