From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: How to spell "commit" [was: bikeshedding bzr (or similar) :] Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:18:15 +0900 Message-ID: <87ve3qwf7c.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87skyvse7k.fsf@xmission.com> <87wso7mfmu.fsf@red-bean.com> <873aqumyk4.fsf@red-bean.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205439017 16682 80.91.229.12 (13 Mar 2008 20:10:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Jason Earl , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 13 21:10:44 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JZtlD-0007WK-GW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:10:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZtke-0007nI-3m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:10:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZtkW-0007lO-Me for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:10:00 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZtkV-0007kX-1U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:10:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZtkU-0007kU-Ss for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:09:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZtkU-0002fq-Co for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:09:58 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A878004; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:09:55 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B10A61A29E5; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:18:15 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <873aqumyk4.fsf@red-bean.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" 2785829fe37c XEmacs Lucid X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92428 Archived-At: [[ As long as I'm here dept: Jason, you have my admiration, thanks, and congratulations for following up on that: I have not yet had the patience to follow through on a cvsps conversion, though I've tried several times! ]] Wow, among all the bikeshedding[1][2], a real question that matters. Karl Fogel writes: > Karl Fogel writes: > > 1) If we commit to ("push to", whatever the appropriate term is) Darcs's command set is the best terminology to use here, I think. You *record* a changeset locally. You *push* a changeset to make it public. People are going to call both "commits", of course, but the record vs. push terminology is nonetheless unambiguous and reasonably intuitive. I think it will grow on people if we just start using it. Footnotes: [1] Thien-Thi's question about maintaining personal gateways among VCSes is also an important question. I use tailor myself for over a year now; it has some problems, but it overall works well. [2] Of course efficiency will matter, but *not yet*, for heaven's sake! "Premature optimization is the root of all evil in programming"!