From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jidanni@jidanni.org Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: undo C-_ and C-/: mention hex codes Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:49:02 +0800 Message-ID: <87ve2hc0td.fsf@jidanni.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208357680 21033 80.91.229.12 (16 Apr 2008 14:54:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:54:40 +0000 (UTC) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 16 16:55:06 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jm8xT-0004O1-4o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:49:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jm8wo-0004j6-FJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:49:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jm8wj-0004ir-3W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:49:13 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jm8wg-0004iU-KE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:49:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jm8wg-0004iR-Hi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:49:10 -0400 Original-Received: from lax-green-bigip-5.dreamhost.com ([208.113.200.5] helo=blingymail-a2.g.dreamhost.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jm8wg-0007w1-6I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:49:10 -0400 Original-Received: from jidanni2 (218-162-232-203.dynamic.hinet.net [218.162.232.203]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blingymail-a2.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB5641414 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:49:07 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:17848 Archived-At: In the emacs manual at the several places where it talks about the undo keys C-_ and C-/, please also mention what hex codes you are talking about (0x1F) etc. Maybe you are just talking about the same 0x1F and 0x1F, or maybe two different codes. The user wants to know. Or maybe there's a extra layer of abstraction involved. Mention that too. Anyways, mentioning it would help the user better understand paragraphs like: The reason the `undo' command has three key bindings, `C-x u', `C-_' and `C-/', is that it is worthy of a single-character key, but `C-x u' is more straightforward for beginners to remember and type. Meanwhile, `C--' on a text-only terminal is really `C-_', which makes it a natural and easily typed binding for undoing.