default default face

default default face

[Miles Bader]

Ok, now the `fixed' and `variable-pitch' faces look beautiful by
default -- but what about the default `default' face?  Currently it
still seems to be the old ugly (and non-AA) courier face.

It seems like it should be "Monospace" by default too, just like the
`fixed' face.

-Miles

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Re: default default face

[Chong Yidong]

Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com> writes:

> Ok, now the `fixed' and `variable-pitch' faces look beautiful by
> default -- but what about the default `default' face?  Currently it
> still seems to be the old ugly (and non-AA) courier face.
>
> It seems like it should be "Monospace" by default too, just like the
> `fixed' face.

Good point.  Could someone please do this?

Re: default default face

[Chong Yidong]

> Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com> writes:
>
>> Ok, now the `fixed' and `variable-pitch' faces look beautiful by
>> default -- but what about the default `default' face?  Currently it
>> still seems to be the old ugly (and non-AA) courier face.
>>
>> It seems like it should be "Monospace" by default too, just like the
>> `fixed' face.

WDYT about making changing the defaults as follows:

*** trunk/src/xrdb.c.~1.65.~	2008-06-02 12:27:57.000000000 -0400
--- trunk/src/xrdb.c	2008-06-23 13:21:57.000000000 -0400
***************
*** 527,536 ****
    XrmDatabase db;
    char line[256];
  
!   char *helv = "-*-helvetica-medium-r-*--*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1";
  
  #ifdef USE_MOTIF
!   char *courier = "-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1";
    extern Lisp_Object Vdouble_click_time;
  #endif
  
--- 527,536 ----
    XrmDatabase db;
    char line[256];
  
!   char *helv = "Sans";
  
  #ifdef USE_MOTIF
!   char *courier = "Monospace";
    extern Lisp_Object Vdouble_click_time;
  #endif
  

Re: default default face

[Stefan Monnier]

>>> Ok, now the `fixed' and `variable-pitch' faces look beautiful by
>>> default -- but what about the default `default' face?  Currently it
>>> still seems to be the old ugly (and non-AA) courier face.
>>> 
>>> It seems like it should be "Monospace" by default too, just like the
>>> `fixed' face.

> WDYT about making changing the defaults as follows:

Does it still work with the Lucid toolkit?


        Stefan

Re: default default face

[Chip Coldwell]

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008, Chong Yidong wrote:

> > Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com> writes:
> >
> >> Ok, now the `fixed' and `variable-pitch' faces look beautiful by
> >> default -- but what about the default `default' face?  Currently it
> >> still seems to be the old ugly (and non-AA) courier face.
> >>
> >> It seems like it should be "Monospace" by default too, just like the
> >> `fixed' face.
> 
> WDYT about making changing the defaults as follows:
> 
> *** trunk/src/xrdb.c.~1.65.~	2008-06-02 12:27:57.000000000 -0400
> --- trunk/src/xrdb.c	2008-06-23 13:21:57.000000000 -0400
> ***************
> *** 527,536 ****
>     XrmDatabase db;
>     char line[256];
>   
> !   char *helv = "-*-helvetica-medium-r-*--*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1";
>   
>   #ifdef USE_MOTIF
> !   char *courier = "-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1";
>     extern Lisp_Object Vdouble_click_time;
>   #endif
>   
> --- 527,536 ----
>     XrmDatabase db;
>     char line[256];
>   
> !   char *helv = "Sans";
>   
>   #ifdef USE_MOTIF
> !   char *courier = "Monospace";
>     extern Lisp_Object Vdouble_click_time;
>   #endif

You would also need to fix doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi, which contains

"The default font used by Emacs (under X) is:

@smallexample
-adobe-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
@end smallexample"

Chip

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Re: default default face

[Miles Bader]

Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> writes:
>>> It seems like it should be "Monospace" by default too, just like the
>>> `fixed' face.
>
> WDYT about making changing the defaults as follows:
>
> --- trunk/src/xrdb.c.~1.65.~	2008-06-02 12:27:57.000000000 -0400
..
> -  char *helv = "-*-helvetica-medium-r-*--*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1";
> +  char *helv = "Sans";
>
>  #ifdef USE_MOTIF
> -  char *courier = "-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1";
> +  char *courier = "Monospace";
>    extern Lisp_Object Vdouble_click_time;
>  #endif

Is that enough?  A grep for "courier" finds the following:

./src/widget.c:#define DEFAULT_FACE_FONT "-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*"
./src/xfns.c:	= { "-adobe-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1",
./src/xrdb.c:  char *courier = "-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1";
./lisp/org/org-exp.el:	font-family: courier, monospace;
./lisp/play/gamegrid.el:(defvar gamegrid-font "-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-140-100-75-*-*-iso8859-*"
./lisp/faces.el:  '(("Monospace" "courier" "fixed")
./lisp/faces.el:    ("courier" "fixed")
./lisp/textmodes/tex-mode.el:  '((t :family "courier"))

[I removed a bunch of false hits, e.g. the ps-print stuff, and the
hardwired font menus in mouse.el]

Also, isn't the canonical fontconfig name "Sans-Serif"?

Thanks,

-Miles

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