From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
To: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: composed characters question and suggestions for quail-cyrillic-*
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:01:36 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vdzdflfj.fsf@jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86prplzd45.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:40:58 -0500")
> JL> 1. Could you also add rules to input vowels with the combining acute
> JL> accent like you did for the combining grave accent, i.e. could you add
> JL> ("a'" ["а́"]) and other vowels with the primary stress?
>
> Done. I had to remove some conflicting rules.
Thanks, this is close to perfect now. However, I noticed yet another
conflicting rule: ("u'" ?ў) ("U'" ?Ў). Since it is У with breve,
we could use the same key tilde ~ as used by Latin input methods to
input Latin letters with breve: ("u~" ?ў) ("U~" ?Ў).
> JL> 2. There are now two conflicting rules: ("E`" ["Ѐ"]) and ("E`" ?Э).
>
> Moved Э to @@ (since э was on @ already).
It is too bad to drop ("e'" ?э) since it is a frequently used letter.
I propose to add a rule ("e\\" ?э) because `э' is named REVERSED E,
and REVERSE SOLIDUS `\' has similar mnemonics.
> JL> 3. I just realized that we could leave the rule ("'" ?ь), because
> JL> it has no conflict with ("a'" ["а́"]). The letter `ь' is never used
> JL> after a vowel.
>
> Done, and '' is also back to Ь. x/X again input Cyrillic х/Х.
Thanks, it is important to keep mappings backward-compatible if possible.
> JL> 4. Please swap the mappings between ("/``" ?”) and ("/''" ?“),
> JL> and also between ("/'" ?‘) and ("/`" ?’), because usually backquotes
> JL> are used for left quotation marks, and apostrophes are used for right
> JL> quotation marks.
>
> OK. Please check my work, I did my best to proofread the rules.
Everything seems correct now.
> JL> I tried the patch that Handa-san submitted in 2007, and it works well
> JL> (with only one change of removing unnecessary `nreverse'). So I think
> JL> we should now design a good UI to use multiple input method support.
>
> I think the variable default-input-method should accept a list with
> implied priority (first is highest) or a function (returning a list or a
> string), and DTRT.
I agree that this is the most reasonable way to implement this feature.
I only have doubts about backward-compatibility if it might break some
existing code.
> C-u C-\ should only enable the first method in the list.
> C-u 2 C-\ should enable the first two methods.
> C-\ enables all the methods in the chain.
I think there is no need in such complexity since in the minibuffer
after typing C-\ you can select multiple input methods.
--
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-10 22:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-13 14:27 composed characters question and suggestions for quail-cyrillic-* Ted Zlatanov
2008-06-13 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-13 15:56 ` Jason Rumney
2008-06-13 18:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-06-14 9:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-14 18:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-06-14 19:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-18 20:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-06-19 11:45 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-02 20:25 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-03 2:29 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-03 19:53 ` adding consistent extra symbols to input methods (cyrillic-*, croatian-*, slov*, czech-* etc.) input methods Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-05 12:54 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-06 18:40 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-06 22:54 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-10 0:09 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 0:37 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-10 0:52 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 1:44 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-10 1:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-10 0:27 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 1:16 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-10 18:43 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-11 2:52 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-07 1:57 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-07 4:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-07 5:25 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-07 19:42 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-07 22:05 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-13 5:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-13 5:17 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-13 21:27 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-14 3:18 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-14 4:43 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-14 21:51 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-15 1:24 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-28 13:30 ` multiple input methods (was: adding consistent extra symbols to input methods) Juri Linkov
2008-07-06 18:41 ` composed characters question and suggestions for quail-cyrillic-* Juri Linkov
2008-07-07 20:12 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-07 21:42 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-08 0:48 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-08 10:46 ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-07-08 21:47 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-08 15:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-08 17:38 ` James Cloos
2008-07-08 22:54 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-09 16:02 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 18:02 ` James Cloos
2008-07-09 18:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 19:51 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-09 18:48 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 19:33 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-09 22:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 23:52 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 12:47 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-10 18:45 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 19:10 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-10 19:52 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 20:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-10 22:01 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2008-07-12 20:51 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-14 14:01 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-14 21:47 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-15 15:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-15 20:32 ` Juri Linkov
2008-08-01 21:07 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-05 21:00 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-05 22:05 ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-10 22:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-10 22:54 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-11 1:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-11 2:08 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-09 19:21 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-08 15:49 ` James Cloos
2008-07-08 18:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-08 19:50 ` James Cloos
2008-07-08 20:26 ` composed characters question and suggestions for?quail-cyrillic-* Teemu Likonen
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