From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:34:21 +0900 Message-ID: <87vdxp27z6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <48A5BAD7.8030302@emf.net> <48A740CB.4050404@emf.net> <20080816213508.GA8530@muc.de> <87hc9ka8eg.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20080817073124.GA1294@muc.de> <87ljyv5gy5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20080818101802.GA2615@muc.de> <87bpzqqk7b.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20080818210927.GD2615@muc.de> <87wsidnxqp.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ljytkwpk.fsf@rattlesnake.com> <878wusz0v9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219628051 9049 80.91.229.12 (25 Aug 2008 01:34:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:34:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: bob@rattlesnake.com (Robert J. Chassell) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 25 03:35:04 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KXQz2-00018E-CC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:35:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52606 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KXQy2-0007wb-4B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KXQxy-0007wP-Iz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:33:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KXQxx-0007vo-25 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:33:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33343 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KXQxw-0007vi-Ub for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:33:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:56333) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KXQxw-0001gf-W6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:33:57 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id B045B8007; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:33:47 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3594D1A25C3; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:34:21 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM ?bug? under XEmacs 21.5.21 (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102921 Archived-At: I wish you (and RMS) would get a real MUA. VM is a good one for those used to Rmail. Fixing attributions: I wrote: > Sure, but communitarian freedom has typically been espoused by > leaders who create a personality cult around them and brook > little actual dissent, etc. Robert J. Chassell writes: > That is often true. Same in software. You said it, not me. Thank you. > Software freedom is *not* about a personality that overshadows the > rest of the community, is it? Rather, it is a very individualist > freedom. > Copyright law has to do with copying between people. And software freedom is about removing hindrances to an individual's copying, of which copyright and patent laws are (according to the free software movement) the most important (ie, the ones we need to "do something" about). I don't understand what you're trying to say. I don't mean to oppose it, but rather indicate where I'm getting stuck. Help?