From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jay Belanger Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1349: Calc interactive tutorial typo & suggestion Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:18:32 -0600 Message-ID: <87vdupync7.fsf@gmail.com> References: Reply-To: jay.p.belanger@gmail.com, 1349@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1226766640 9967 80.91.229.12 (15 Nov 2008 16:30:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1349@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Ben Wong Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 15 17:31:40 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L1O3f-00088O-6V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:31:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44856 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L1O2W-0007aK-Q8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:30:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L1O2L-0007WQ-B8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:30:17 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L1O2J-0007Vg-Nn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:30:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56505 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L1O2J-0007VY-9m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:30:15 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:55556) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L1O2J-0003wO-0Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:30:15 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mAFGU86B015111; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:30:08 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id mAFGP5GK013549; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:25:05 -0800 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Jay Belanger Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:25:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1349 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1349-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1349.122676592412124 (code B ref 1349); Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:25:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1349) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Nov 2008 16:18:44 +0000 Original-Received: from s2.cableone.net (s2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mAFGIfY2012117 for <1349@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:18:43 -0800 Original-Received: from belanger (unverified [24.116.73.151]) by s2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service s2) with ESMTP id 8658766-1872270 for multiple; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:18:34 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Ben Wong's message of "Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:26:41 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Vpipe: Scanner said ok (av_avast) X-NotAscii: charset=us-ascii X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 2, First 40, in=15, out=0, spam=0 ip=24.116.73.151 X-Originating-IP: 24.116.73.151 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:30:16 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:22379 Archived-At: "Ben Wong" writes: > The interactive tutorial for calc says to use `C-x * i' to switch back > to the tutorial from the calculator. However, that key sequence > brings up the main calc info page, which would leave most people lost > and frustrated. I believe the correct sequence is `C-x * o'. I see. Both `C-x * c, C-x * i' and `C-x * i, C-x * c, C-x * o' seem to leave Emacs in the same state, neither of which is looking at the tutorial. The paragraph you mentioned talks about reading the tutorial online, so it should probably be changed to `C-x * t', which will set up the desired Emacs setup by itself, and a discussion of how to switch between the info and Calc buffers. In the future, perhaps Calc commands that will manipulate the info buffer from within the Calc buffer might be useful (for example, `i SPC' in the Calc buffer will scroll the info buffer). > I also have a second small suggestion for the tutorial. There should be > a message at the end of the answer to the first exercise, at least, > stating: > > "If you are using the Emacs Info system, you may press 'l' to > return to the last page you were viewing." That's a good idea; I'll add a line like that to the info output. Jay