From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Interactive hat. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:44:26 +0100 Message-ID: <87vdptrwd1.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> References: <20090324135210.GA4657@muc.de> <20090325101650.GA1487@muc.de> <20090325105316.GB1487@muc.de> <87ocvplkb5.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <20090326115154.GB3358@muc.de> <20090326143354.GE3358@muc.de> <20090326164501.GG3358@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1238287511 8075 80.91.229.12 (29 Mar 2009 00:45:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 00:45:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alan Mackenzie , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Miles Bader To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 29 01:46:27 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LnjAR-0000bx-E6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:46:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40690 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lnj94-0006wh-5v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lnj8x-0006rq-Nf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:44:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lnj8w-0006oJ-2O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:44:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39068 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lnj8v-0006nu-RN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:44:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail1-hoer.fullrate.dk ([90.185.1.42]:56670 helo=smtp.fullrate.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lnj8s-0000eX-Jp; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:44:50 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs-lx.rd.rdm.cua.dk (unknown [90.184.173.152]) by smtp.fullrate.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id C02589CE5B; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:44:26 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:57:52 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:109899 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> So I think you're arguing that a property can only properly describe the >> name part of a symbol. > > Yes. > >> Or, maybe, just maybe, using properties in the customary way isn't such a >> bad hack after all. :-) > > They're convenient hacks. But when the property can be put directly on > the object, it's usually preferable. Based on my years of experience with CUA-mode, I fully agree with Alan. Using symbol property + dedicated pre/post hooks is IMHO superior to interactive-hat for several reasons (that I gave a long time ago). But I've given up that battle - as long as CUA-mode seems to keep working despite the ^ thingy, I'm indifferent to how its done in "standard" emacs. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk